472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

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472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby Bill7718 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:38 pm

Hey Guys, I will be purchasing a rivermaster with a 472 caddy DD. looking to get a new prop for hunting and wanted some suggestions. Thanks in advance! :old_glory: :florida:

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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby Christie » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:29 pm

I have a 72" Water Walker on my 500 with a 13.6 old Cottonmouth and it does okay for me.

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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby Deano » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:05 pm

x2

Been running a 72" Water Walker Signature Series on our 472 Rivermaster for years.

Tried others along the way more than once and have always put that one back on.
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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby Whitebear » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:18 pm

Bill, please don't post this kind of topic in Site Related. I moved the post to here in Prop Talk for you. Site Related is for people who need help using the site, not for normal discussions. :thumbleft:
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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby sidejobs » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:33 pm

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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby One Eyed Gator » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:07 am

There are 4 major manufactures Sensenich, Water Walker, Whirlwind and Warp Drive.

Sensenich offers H, NGH, Q And NGQ blades get wide from H to HGQ and the two NG blades have a winglet

Waterwalker offers Cypress, Signature and a cut down wide blade

Whirlwind is WhisperTip and Excalibur

Warp Drive 5 or 6 blade

Most caddy's will swing from 68 in a 3 blade combo to 76" 2 blade.
Excalibar in a bowtie 4 blade

I have run 3 blade 72" h snappy and fun drive like a 2 stoke all the power right at the top it like around 2800 on the trailer and would make your ears bleed.
Ran a 2 blade 72 Q Ran good not as snappy but push across the rpm range. It like 2700 on the trailer.
Best pushing prop I owned was a FAP 72LXL38 with a special cup in the blade so they said.

I have not run the waterwalker sig but like the way they push down low. I use to run with a guy he ran 70" 3 blade cypress. also pushed very well.
Wanted to Try NGQ, and 3 blade NGH. Also the Bowtie Excaliber had my interest.

Just my 2 cents

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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby Striker543 » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:25 am

My favorite prop on my Caddy has been a 72" 3-blade NGH. The 74" 2 blade NGH probably had the best performance, but I like the smoothness of a 3 blade prop. One Eyed Gator is right about the 3 blade H being a good prop, but it is loud and it produces most of it's power at the top of the rpm range.

I haven't tried a 2 blade NGQ, but I've only heard good things about them. Maybe One Eyed Gator will get one and we can trade props one day.

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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby SWAMPHUNTER45 » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:47 am

The 2 blade 72 adjustable is probably your best bet. If you are on a tight budget many of the old timers speak highly of the wood paddle OneEye noted.

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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby One Eyed Gator » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:53 am

72" does push very good but always fells like it is slipping, where the q felt like it was grabbing more air.
I also like a slightly short prop think 72 or 74" is good, personally do not like bigger than a 74 for a Caddy DD.

Striker I am almost out of the caddy business.

Don't get me wrong I love my caddy and have been running one for 10 years. I am rebuild my alumitec for a 5.3 with a gearbox. Almost done. Been without a boat for 4 month and going crazy. Then people go showing redfish picture like bobby C., time to finish and be back on the water.

Just time to lighten the load. Really do not want to get rid of it. That motor has been very good to me. just did a full rebuild it .040 over and runs strong. But got to sell it to get a prop for this build no other way around it.

So Got a complete motor and stand and a few good parts left to sell.

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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby Bill7718 » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:14 am

Thank you guys very much for your information. i really appreciate it! sorry about posting in the wrong section. :old_glory:

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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby One Eyed Gator » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:41 pm

I have 3 H blades in the classified if you decide to go that way, but they have to go back to sensenich to have the leading edge replaced.

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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby QuickSlick » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:52 am

2 blade 74" ngq would work great
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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby SWAMPHUNTER45 » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:19 am

I think a 74 NGQ may be to much blade for an old 472 but if you guys can grab a demo prop that would be a great test. If he cant spin it up maybe a Qblade is the better choice.

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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby QuickSlick » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:32 am

The 472 typically turns about the same prop as a 260hp 540 I have sold several 74"NGQs to guys with 260s and they loved them. If it was a little much could just drop back to a 72". In my opinion the ngq is far superior to the Q.
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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby Big Casino » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:28 am

... I wouldn't exclude trying the Excalibur!!!

I've been trying one out for a few weeks. It's a 72" four blade in a Bowtie Hub and staggered pitch. Surprised the Heck out of me, NO hi pitch whine... sounded like a big 2 blade

I compared its Static Thrust to a 2 & 3 blade also @ 72" ... No comparison @ Low & Midrange... Way more Thrust!!!!

Same thrust as 2 blade and only 70# less than 3 blade @ WOT.

I'm really impressed.
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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby SWAMPHUNTER45 » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:55 am

That sounds like a cool prop! I have been seeing a few BowTie set ups around and wondering what they do BIGs. I wouldnt be opposed to trying one.

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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby sidejobs » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:28 am

Big Casino wrote:... I wouldn't exclude trying the Excalibur!!!

I've been trying one out for a few weeks. It's a 72" four blade in a Bowtie Hub and staggered pitch. Surprised the Heck out of me, NO hi pitch whine... sounded like a big 2 blade

I compared its Static Thrust to a 2 & 3 blade also @ 72" ... No comparison @ Low & Midrange... Way more Thrust!!!!

Same thrust as 2 blade and only 70# less than 3 blade @ WOT.

I'm really impressed.

I've been running a 72" 4 blade Excalibur on my caddy dd since last novemeber ! It is my fav prop of all that I've run. Obviously it's been on a year that says something. And anyone who has seen my boat run knows it works well. I would run the whisper tip or the Excalibur on a 472 and would highly recommend turning that 472 into a 500 !
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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby Prototype » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:23 pm

sidejobs wrote:
Big Casino wrote:... I wouldn't exclude trying the Excalibur!!!

I've been trying one out for a few weeks. It's a 72" four blade in a Bowtie Hub and staggered pitch. Surprised the Heck out of me, NO hi pitch whine... sounded like a big 2 blade

I compared its Static Thrust to a 2 & 3 blade also @ 72" ... No comparison @ Low & Midrange... Way more Thrust!!!!

Same thrust as 2 blade and only 70# less than 3 blade @ WOT.

I'm really impressed.

I've been running a 72" 4 blade Excalibur on my caddy dd since last novemeber ! It is my fav prop of all that I've run. Obviously it's been on a year that says something. And anyone who has seen my boat run knows it works well. I would run the whisper tip or the Excalibur on a 472 and would highly recommend turning that 472 into a 500 !


Sidejobs,
Have you ever tried the sabers. I'm kind of curious if the Excalibur has that same freakin hiss or metal to metal sound as the sabers at certain rpm?

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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby Bruce » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:43 pm

sidejobs wrote:
Big Casino wrote:... I wouldn't exclude trying the Excalibur!!!

I've been trying one out for a few weeks. It's a 72" four blade in a Bowtie Hub and staggered pitch. Surprised the Heck out of me, NO hi pitch whine... sounded like a big 2 blade

I compared its Static Thrust to a 2 & 3 blade also @ 72" ... No comparison @ Low & Midrange... Way more Thrust!!!!

Same thrust as 2 blade and only 70# less than 3 blade @ WOT.

I'm really impressed.

I've been running a 72" 4 blade Excalibur on my caddy dd since last novemeber ! It is my fav prop of all that I've run. Obviously it's been on a year that says something. And anyone who has seen my boat run knows it works well. I would run the whisper tip or the Excalibur on a 472 and would highly recommend turning that 472 into a 500 !



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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby sidejobs » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:11 pm

Prototype wrote:
sidejobs wrote:
Big Casino wrote:... I wouldn't exclude trying the Excalibur!!!

I've been trying one out for a few weeks. It's a 72" four blade in a Bowtie Hub and staggered pitch. Surprised the Heck out of me, NO hi pitch whine... sounded like a big 2 blade

I compared its Static Thrust to a 2 & 3 blade also @ 72" ... No comparison @ Low & Midrange... Way more Thrust!!!!

Same thrust as 2 blade and only 70# less than 3 blade @ WOT.

I'm really impressed.

I've been running a 72" 4 blade Excalibur on my caddy dd since last novemeber ! It is my fav prop of all that I've run. Obviously it's been on a year that says something. And anyone who has seen my boat run knows it works well. I would run the whisper tip or the Excalibur on a 472 and would highly recommend turning that 472 into a 500 !


Sidejobs,
Have you ever tried the sabers. I'm kind of curious if the Excalibur has that same freakin hiss or metal to metal sound as the sabers at certain rpm?

The Excalibur def has its own sound. It's not like the sabers.
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Re: 472 caddy/ rivermaster prop question.

Postby Prototype » Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:23 pm

Thanks,
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