Trying to figure out what exactly I have

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Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Basin_Runner355 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:06 am

I just Bought my first airboat it came with a whirlwind blades and hub they weren't in the best of shape so i got what I could for them and bought another set of whirlwind blades. The guy I got them from dont know much he's just got money and just buys what ever. I don't really like whirlwind blades wanna try a set of water walker. I think I have a power Shri hub cause it has 3 rings instead of 2 and the way it bolts to the reduction is the same as my buddy's power ****/ water walker blades and hub. Just wondering if they made a set of whirldwind blades that fit a power **** hub
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Joe » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:50 am

Yes they did,I think they still make them. They where PSR blades. I had a set years ago. They worked well. A whirl wind hub looks very different from a water walker or sensenich hub.
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Deano » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:09 am

PowerShift / WaterWalker and Sensenich hubs all have the three rings you've eluded to, unlike the Whirlwind which only has the two. They (the three ringed ones) are close enough to being the same that in SOME cases, they are interchangeable. They do fit better and are much easier to adjust when in the correct hub, but my point is that you are best served by determining exactly which hub it is that you have. This determination will allow you to get the correct blades for the hub you already have.

To answer your specific question, yes, Whirlwind made a "PSR" (Powershift Replacement) blade, but I don't know if they still do or not. Beyond that, I do not know what rotation or prop rpm ranges they are meant for. In either case, I don't know why you would go that route when you have a broader selection of the correct blades from the correct manufacture.

Be aware that the engine side of the hub will bolt to a prop adapter or a gear box exactly the same. You said 'reduction', but in reference to your buddy's boat. Beyond that you have given no clue what your application is. Nor have you filled out your profile so we have any idea where you are at.

If we know your application (engine rpms, gear ratio, boat size) then we will have an idea what we are talking about. Additionally, if we know where you are maybe someone near you has the blades you need. There is a real good possibility that if you are near me, I already have the blades you need here.

In any case, the serial number(s) on your current hub would be the
best way to confirm who made it by making a couple of phone calls.

Water Walker (863) 676-7767
Sensenich (813) 752-3711
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Basin_Runner355 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:33 am

I just seeing if i could swap it out to some water walker blades cause I head water walkers push a lot better than whirlwind.
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Basin_Runner355 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:37 am

What info is there to fill out I'm
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Deano » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:52 am

After you are logged in . . .

go to [User Menu]
then click [User Control panel]
then click [Profile]
then go to [Location]
Enter your City, ST
then click [Submit]

If you have a PS/WW hub, yes you can.
How successful that would be depends on info we don't have.
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Basin_Runner355 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:01 am

Is that better
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby radtech » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:05 am

Can you download pics of your hub, etc? That would be a huge help to ID. There are many who can ID them by sight. Also, as said, what motor, size boat, alum or glass, weight, etc can help folks be a little more helpful.

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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Basin_Runner355 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:42 am

I'll take some when I get home this afternoon
Motor is a zz4
14x7 diamond back
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Deano » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:48 pm

Now, with the info supplied in your signature, it becomes
readily apparent that you need left hand Falcon blades. :)
Those would in fact, be near a prefect match for what you have.

If it is a two blade hub that you have . . .
A short, medium or long hub will be 7" or 9" or 11" long respectively,
and will provide a 76", 78" or 80" prop depending on what size hub it is.

Unfortunately, the Falcons I have here are all right handed.
If you had a gearbox, I could've made you a really good deal.
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Basin_Runner355 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:34 pm

I have the long hub. Is 80 inches to much for a small block
I'll Prolly end up buying two brand new blades I would like for them to be a 78 but don't feeling like the extra money on another hub
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Deano » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:53 pm

I have a friend that ran an 80" on a 350 w/a 2.12 gearbox and it was fine.

It would have a little less snap than shorter, but if you're out to extend your belt
life and reliability, 'snap' is something that may be better avoided anyway.
Other things being equal, diameter will trump pitch and provide more push.

I fully appreciate your sentiments about buying a potentially un-needed hub.

If you're buying new, you might try calling Andrew at Water Walker and
ask him how much shorter they can make and/or trim them. I wouldn't
think that a couple inches would be any big deal. At least that way you
would get them newly balanced.

Another option if you found it necessary after the fact, would be to use
the classifieds and find someone to swap your long for their medium hub.
That is done more often than you probably realize; I've done it twice.
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Basin_Runner355 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:14 pm

I tried to up load pic but it's saying the file is to big it's just a regular pic taken with my iPhone idk what's the the deal With that
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Basin_Runner355 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:22 pm

Everybody I know runs water walker or sensenich the ones that run sensenich say water walker push better and nobody around here runs whirlwind
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby radtech » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:57 pm

Put the pic on your desktop. Double click on it and pull it up. Crop it to get rid of unnecessary background. then upload it. Has worked for me

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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Basin_Runner355 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:20 pm

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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby goldhunter_2 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:33 pm

that's long powershift/waterwalker hub
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby jopete » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:00 am

do u know frosty and them boys from breaux bridge? they have a big group of airboats and they run the basin quite a bit. if you see any of them stop and talk to them, good people and can get u up to speed quick on what u have/need.

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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby plumcrazy » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:20 am

call water walker at 863 676 7767 ask for andrew or wes they will help ya out wih the info you need

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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Basin_Runner355 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:17 am

jopete wrote:do u know frosty and them boys from breaux bridge? they have a big group of airboats and they run the basin quite a bit. if you see any of them stop and talk to them, good people and can get u up to speed quick on what u have/need.



Yea I know frosty and scoob and thier gang I talked to them a few times at the landing. Before I had my airboat and they came help us for teal season we blew a motor in one and they came help us get it out a hole that was bad


Differnt ppl tell different things some say I need a 2 blade some say i need a 3 blade idk to me a 350 wouldn't have enough ass for a 3 blade maby one with a lil work done to it
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby barhopper » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:36 am

Not enough motor/reduction to swing three. I'd do a ratio change on the reduction if you want to swing three.

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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Basin_Runner355 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:05 am

Nah not going through all that trouble
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby 406 JAMIE » Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:13 am

Basin_Runner355 wrote:
jopete wrote:do u know frosty and them boys from breaux bridge? they have a big group of airboats and they run the basin quite a bit. if you see any of them stop and talk to them, good people and can get u up to speed quick on what u have/need.



Yea I know frosty and scoob and thier gang I talked to them a few times at the landing. Before I had my airboat and they came help us for teal season we blew a motor in one and they came help us get it out a hole that was bad


Differnt ppl tell different things some say I need a 2 blade some say i need a 3 blade idk to me a 350 wouldn't have enough ass for a 3 blade maby one with a lil work done to it


hello and yes a 350 will turn a 3bld had a 350ci/330hp gm crate motor on my 13'6x7'6 deepsided diamond back 1998 with a 2.12 rotator gearbox with a whispertip 12in wide blds 79in.it had a 6bld wrapdrive when i first got it wouldn't even run dry once i put that 3bld on there whole new boat would run dry loaded and when i put 414bbc at 500hp on 87oct on boat used same prop worked great just added some more pitch and let her rip. Its all in the set up of ur boat bassin runner 355. Hope this helps besafe y all. :rebel:
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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby jopete » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:58 pm

them lilies and sand in the basin will take a lot out of that 350. it's hard on lots of bbc's as well.

I always wanted to make a 350 with stupid amount of reduction and big blades just to run the bad stuff like a tractor. I wrapped my 12' gpu powered boat around a stump in the x-road last week. just finished beating the hull back straight. [kinda straight] lol

u cross that big levee on the way to mud cove yet? going isn't bad, but coming back over it is a lot longer and takes some power to get over the hump.
I made it but don't think I have enough power to run the airboat jump at Grevanberg.

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Re: Trying to figure out what exactly I have

Postby Basin_Runner355 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:12 pm

What set of x roads you talkin bout

No I have. No reason to go to mud cove and I dint try the cross over to grevenberg either
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