hill said:Thanks for the info John I'll def. put on my wish list . Be using a 500 for now tho . Price wise they do think a lot about them 390 4v . Thought I had heard something about filing down the the lever on those 4vs for the back to barrels a little so they only open when you mash it to the floor ???? Not sure about that tho . But I know you'll know the right answer on that one Just Incase others r reading this post .I don't want to put no bad info out there . Thanks again hill