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AVERAGE AIRBOATERS FIXING TO GIT BURNED AGAIN?

SHOULD THE FAA SEEK A STATE LAW FOR 90 db at 50 Feet.

  • YES

    Votes: 7 3.4%

  • NO

    Votes: 198 96.6%
  • Total voters
    205

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Another boat from above.
Gobbler, I never intended anything I posted to be "hateful" just wanted to know the facts!
Someone I know spoke to Bishop at the AAOF event and wasn't satisfied with the answer, so I wanted to know and think it should be public knowledge how FAA stands, as they claim to represent me and every other airboater thru affiliates. If there are affiliates that are for what has been talked about we should know, so we can attempt to show them the error of their ways!
 
I have Bishop's number Danny.
I don't see where having this discussion on here, is causing anybody any undue hardships.
I did not attack Bishop, nor the FAA.
All I was asking for was an answer to the question.

Not just for myself, but for all my fellow Airboaters.
I also wanted to give the Southern Airboater Deligates a place to see where the Southern Airboat Mmbers stood on this issue if it ever should come up for a vote.

Let's not go down the road we were on before, where the FAA is not going to tell us what the deal is on here, because they are too busy and demand that they carry out all conversations or requests for information in private phone conversations.

If I had a personal issue with Bishop, I would have called him about it.
If this thread was an excersize in Futility, then for that I am at fault.
I don't think that it is.

I am greatful for all the work you, Bishop, and allot of others do for us all at KRVSA, FAA, Rick, and on and on. I tell my friends that all the time.

I was on your side when I started this thread, and I'm on Y'alls side now.
So long as Y'all keep looking out for us Airboaters, that's where I'll be.
 
big bird sa is a member of the faa this poll was summitted to the sa members which you are one of, you know as the leader of krvsa you gonna take some heat if your not clear on a agenda, i for one wanted to know, and second hand imfo as per a phone call in the dark dont cut it, no offence toward any one , but this is a good poll it lets every one know what joe airboater wants from the faa , do you agree?
 
COWBOY AND GRANT,
I CAN PROMICE YOU BOTH THAT BISHOP AND MYSELF AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO ATTENDS THE ALL OF THE MEETING HAVE YOUR AND EVERY OTHER AIRBOATERS BACK. IT WASN'T US PARADING AROUNT TALLAHASSEE PUSHING FOR THE 90@50 AND I DON'T THINK THAT I HAVE TO MENTION NAMES ON WHO IT WAS EVERYBODY WITH ANY SENCE AT ALL KNOW'S THAT IT WAS P.W.
WHAT UPSETS ME IS ALL OF THE PEOPLE GETTING FIRED UP (HENCE THE FOUR PAGES IN 24 HOURS) AND MAKING STATEMENTS LIKE NOT SUPPORTING THE FAA AND AND NOT DONATING TO THE FAA. DOES THE AVERAGE AIRBOATER (AS THIS TOPIC IS NAMED) THINK THAT THE LOBBIST IS FREE, DO THEY THINK THAT OUR LAWYER (CHARLES MOORHEAD) IS FREE.
RANDY DOWD SAID IT BEST WHAT GOOD IS MONEY IN OUR CLUBS ACCOUNT IF WE CAN'T RIDE OUR AIRBOATS. KRVSA HAS DONATED OVER 20,000 DOLLARS IN THE LAST 2 YEARS WHICH IS MORE THAT ALL OF THE OTHER CLUBS COMBINED, BUT WE NEED HELP WE CANNOT CARRY THE TORCH ALONE AND WHEN POST LIKE THIS GET STARTED THAT ARE NOT NECESSARY IT TURNS SOME AIRBOATERS AWAY AND THAT IS HELP THAT THE FAA DOESN'T RECEIVE.
TRUST ME PLEASE WHEN I SAY BISHOP AND THE REST OF THE FAA HAS YOUR BEST INTENTIONS AT HEART. AND SA HAS TWO DELEGATES THAT CAN ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS MATT HASTY AND CHARITY WERE BOTH AT THE LAST MEETING. IF EITHER OF YOU TWO GUYS OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE CALL ME OR BISHOP MY HOME NUMBER IS 863-676-4996.
THANKS
BIG GOBBLER
 
PLUM, IN ANSWER NOPE I DON'T AGREE TOO MUCH NEGIVITY.
THANKS
BIG GOBBLER
LOOK AT THE TIME I COULD OF BETTER SPENT DOINT OTHER THINGS THAT I NEED TO DO FOR THE FAA LIKE SENDING THE LETTER THAT I NEED TO DO TO SFWMD. I ALREADY HAD A MEETING WITH THEM TODAY AT SHADY OAKS. NOT BUT ONE OF ME EVEN IF IT IS A LARGE ONE OF ME.
AND AS FAR AS TAKING HEAT PLEASE OBAHMA THAT IS WHAT I DO BEST UNLESS YOUR A BASS BOATER
 
GOBBLER I TALKED TO BISHOP FACE TO FACE ON SATURDAY AND ASKED HIM " YOU GUY'S AINT GONNA BACK THIS 90 DB'S @ 50FT. CRAP ?" AND BISHOP REPLIED WE WILL IF OUR AFFILIATES VOTE THAT WAY " HE WENT ON TO STATE THAT HE'S PERSONALLY AGAINST IT , BUT BISHOP CANT SPEAK FOR EVERYONE OF THE CLUBS AFFILIATES DANNY UNTILL THEY HAVE A MEETING AND KNOW FOR SURE.. AS FOR YOUR COMMENT ABOUT ATTACKING FAA OR NOT SUPPOTING IT YOU GOT THE WRONG FELLER AND CAN TAKE THAT UP WITH THE PEOPLE WHO POSTED IT.

SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH SOME OF US S.A. MEMBERS WANTING TO GET A JUMP START ON THE AFFILIATES AND MAKE SURE THEY KNOW HOW WE FEEL AND WHAT WE WANT THEM TO VOTE FOR ? THIS WAS NO ATTACK ON BISHOP OR THE FAA , I TALKED TO BISHOP AGAIN LAST NIGHT ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHERS AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY STAND AND GOT MY QUESTIONS ANWSERD. MOST OF THE QUESTION WE ASKED WERENT TO BISHOP THEY ARE ADDRESSED TO AFFILIATES , SO THEY NEED TO SPEAK UP LIKE JOHN STORMS DID AND STATE THEIR VOTE.

DANNY WHERE ALL FRIENDS HERE BUT DONT CALL ME OUT LIKE YOUR TO HIGH AND MIGHTY TO BE ASKED A QUESTION IN PERSON ON SOUTHERN AIRBOAT OR BISHOP OR ANYONE ELSE ABOUT A PUBLIC MATTER.
 
DUSTY,
WE ALL KNOW THAT THE BIG GOBBLER ISN'T TO HIGH AND MIGHTY I LOWERED MYSELF TO RACE A CLUNKINENTAL. WHAT I DID HAVE A PERSONAL ISSUE WITH WAS ALL OF THE NEGITIVITY ON THIS SUBJECT. SOMETIMES I DON'T COME ON THIS SITE FOR OVER A WEEK AT A TIME (JUST TOO BUSY) SO IT NOT A POINT OF TALKING OR ASKING ME A QUESTION ON THIS WEBSITE IT'S JUST BETTER IN MY OPINION TO ASK THE QUESTION DIRECTLY TO THE INDIVIDUAL OR YOUR FAA REP SO THEY CAN ANSWER IT FOR YA.
BISHOP IS IN A POSITION THAT IF ALL OF THE AFFILIATES TOLD HIM TO PUSH FOR THE 90@50 HE WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO DO SO BUT YOU CAN BET THAT THE DELEGATES ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT SO THIS WHOLE ISSUE IS A MUTE POINT THAT HAS MADE A FEW AIRBOATERS POST ABOVE THAT THEY MIGHT NOW NOT SUPPORT THE FAA, WHEN WE NEED EVERY AIRBOATER TO STICK TOGETHER. HERE I GO SPENDING MORE TIME ON THIS SUBJECT. I HOPE ALL OF YOU GUY UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING AS I AM NOW STEPPING DOWN FROM MY SOAP BOX.
THANKS
BIG GOBBLER
 
I`m one of the negatives,And I`ll say it again. If the FAA backs 90@50 I`m done and will suggest others do the same. If they take the position of the average Joe airboater and stand against it I`ll stay right there with em.
Not trash talking,just stating my intentions for all to see
 
Big Gobbler said:
PLUM, IN ANSWER NOPE I DON'T AGREE TOO MUCH NEGIVITY.
THANKS
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Big Gobbler,

I don't have a problem talking about this on the phone, or in person. Lots of airboaters get their info thru this site, seems like that could be a good thing if used properly.
FAA collects money to spend on airboaters behalf....I would like to see FAA be well funded!
Keeping "Joe Airboater" in the dark just isn't going to facilitate that!
We know who is pushing the 90 db issue...those same people wanted to conduct "business in the dark" That is not going to work, you want more funding, be more open,not less forthcoming! We sometimes don't understand what is happening and need to be enlightened, so have some one enlighten us.
Seems to me the last leadership of FAA told us they had our best interests in mind when we got mufflers and flags! If this is being "negative" it comes from the impression we are being kept in the dark.......open up....let us know what's happening.....I go to the FAA website....very little info there.....what you want us to do???
 
By the way I understand Bishop's position......However he is also a "leader" with an opinion....A leader is selected to lead....sometimes that means stating an opposition to members and trying to steer them in a direction that is better than their direction. If unsuccessful in swaying them, then he must stand with them!!
 
there is a BS decibel law here and no one has a meter !!!!! so you get a ticket when they SAY its TOO loud - I VOTE NO HELL NO
(edit) I have always kept exhaust levels to a minimum and will continue to do so without anyone telling me what to do ( this is my choice ) prop noise is another story -- at times it will vary due to boat location to listener and airflow direction to the prop ???? we do the best we can but some things are beyond our control !!!!! :mrgreen:
no matter what you do someone will always find something to raise a fuss about - I have given up enough :mrgreen:
 
Hey all,
This issue was implemented to get the FAA affiliates take on the subject. It was implemented to gather information. It was implemented to find out what kind of ammunition we may need to continue the fight for the airboating community. Y'all know there are 2 sides to every story and then there's the truth. I commend all for speaking your minds, it's what makes this world go around. The FAA has only the best interests of the airboating community in mind. It's important to remember that we are all in this for a common goal, to continue doing what we love. I am involved in the FAA and my local club for that reason. While I may not agree with what you say, I respect your opinion as a fellow airboater and a human being. We need to stick together.....as for my own opinion on the db issue....you all have seen my ride....nuff said. As for information, please let us know what kinds of things you would like to see posted on the website and in Marsh Rider. We need YOUR input. It takes a village......

dawn
FAA Secretary
 
Southern Airboat Rocks,
It is the #1 SOURCE OF INFORMATION TO THE AVERAGE AIRBOATER!!!!

What you guys do in Florida Effects us all (Average airboater) though out the United States

This is the only place i get any information about what is going on
So Please do not keep an issue such as this behind closed doors!!

Rick
 
Well boys times are changing and sooner or later it will come down to the fact that you either quiet it down or walk away. I personaly think it is bullshit but what will the alternative be quit airboating, not me. Take that how you may but the fact is that all these boats can be quieted down, again I think it is BS but it is what it is. All it takes is one dumb ass to get drunk and go roaring through an upiddy area to mess it up for the majority of us that is why I believe in policing your own. You catch some one being a dumb ass you explain to him the cost of his stupidity for all us good natured airboaters and what it will cost us after you WHIP HIS ASS. :x
 
:wink: FAA always has Airboaters best interest and the leadership representing FAA is doing all he can do to protect your privileges. I personally have no problem with your opinions and I don't blame any of you for asking what a powerhouse like the Florida Airboat Association is doing to protect your interest after all if it wasn't for them who would be protecting your interest?

First of all I didn’t send a questionnaire out to be answered and disregard, but I respect all affiliates opinions because you all make up FAA's heart and soul (not to mention wallet) and that's why I'm asking for your opinions.

As someone who's traveled through the state visiting affiliates I have realized I have many different cultures of Airboaters, with many different opinions, with many different solutions, with many difference financial backing, but the bottom line is they are all Airboaters who want to help and make a difference.

The only way we can make a difference is if we are united and sometimes we must learn to respect each other's opinion and agree to disagree. I can tell you I spend a lot of time on SA, it's talked about at every local club meeting, but there's nothing like face-to-face at your local club’s meeting, so I encourage you to get out once a month and support your local airboat club. Encourage your local club to support and participate at all FAA meeting and events this will help all of us protect what we love most of all AIRBOATING.

FYI :roll: a good leader never ask a question he doesn't already know the answer and as you can see from SA poll what would make you think FAA poll would be any different. As for the negative comments towards FAA all I can say is you get what you give, so what have you done lately? I know what FAA has done weekly and if we were not there for the Joe airboater once again you would probably have a law this year recommending all airboats must meet 90 dB at 50 feet. The only reason y'all even know this is going on is because FAA once again is on the front line for Joe Airboater, only reason you do not have this law is because FAA was there for you once again. For that reason I'm asking you to support us because we're supporting you, so when someone has negative words to FAA asked them what they have done for Joe airboater.

I would like to thank everyone who has financially supported the FAA because of this we can continue to have Airboating privileges. This year's budget will take a lot of financial support because your freedom is not free. Thanks to all of our hard working affiliates for their time and effort because of them you are still Airboating today. FAA affiliates are not on a high horse they are just passionate because they know the trenches they have the dug to protect your Airboating Heritage.

:D :D :) :wink: Hope to see you and many more at the airboat jamboree this week
 
Thanks Bishop!
I'm glad to see the FAA is going so strong.
Since I have been here, and can't remember when things have been better with the FAA.
Y'all have been accomplishing allot for Airboaters in my opinion.
I am glad that all the FAA Affiliates are concerened about the Joe and Jane Airboaters out there too!
That is very good to hear!

After all...
With out them, there would be no Airboating, No FAA, or No Affilates in the first place! :thumbup:

Thanks again for all you, and the FAA staff does for all the Airboaters!
This Airboater appreciates it. BIGTIME!
Let there be no doubt about it.
I certain that when you call on the Average Airboaters, they will do their best to support you on whatever it is that needs to get done.
 
As a member of the FAA and the delegate for southernairboat I too am against this and I am sorry cowboy that you think there are some affiliates out there who are pushing for this. I have attended pretty much all the meetings and have not gotten that impression. I am working for the airboaters and not against. I own an airboat as well as an airboat company and I am here to keep airboating out there and not have it taken away. Just letting you know.
 
Big Gobbler

Im one of the guys that posted what you might have taken as "negative".....WELL THIS IS HOW I LOOK AT IT; If the FAA backs 90db at 50 ft, they will loose my yearly donations. If any airboat company backs the 90db at 50 ft, I will not spend my money at their business. Simple as that. I have given money to the FAA, I have given money to Charles Moorhead when he was helping AIRBOATERS with camp leases in WCA2 and WCA3 and I will continue to donate money to organizations that help AIRBOATERS.

Grant summed it up for me..."you want more funding, be more open, not less forthcoming"

Also when you say things like: "LOOK AT THE TIME I COULD OF BETTER SPENT DOINT OTHER THINGS THAT I NEED TO DO FOR THE FAA" than answer our questions concerns or comments, you really are not motaviting me to support the FAA. Dont forget AIRBOATERS ARE THE FAA !

Rob
 
nicely put Rob.....i think we have a venue for one voice to be heard,voted on, expressed.Our recent poll doesn't lie,and brought out many voters. A round table discussion for 2009 may be needed.
 
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