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Big Cypress Swamp Preserve, Saving Florida cultural heritage

Hawk

Well-known member
Frank Denninger asked to help spread the word on this proposal by the National Park Services (NPS) as it can negatively impact use of this area by airboaters, ORVs, hunting and fishing. A planned land expansion would put about 109,000 acres into Wilderness Designation. Big Cypress Preserve was 582,000 acres with 146,000 additional lands added in 1988.

Everglades Coordinationg Council and Big Cypress Sportsman's Alliance are asking everyone to responsd to 4 questions posted by NPS.

Here is their suggested answers to these 4 questions.

Question 1 - airboats, swamp buggies, ATVs
Question 2 - all alternatives should drop the wilderness and primitive back country designation
Question 3 - ORV trails to ALL areas of addition lands no more than 1 mile between trails
Question 4 - None of the additional land should be eligible for Wilderness.

You can read up on this issue and get the comment form on NPS website. COMMENTS MUST BE SUBMITTED BY JUNE 1, 2007.

http://parkplanning.nps.gov

Select link to Plans/Documents Open for Comment at bottom of page.
Choose Big Cypress National Preserve Newsletter 5.
Select Comment form for Newsletter 5.

Can also mail you comments to Big Cypress Planning Team, 12795 Alameda Parkway, PO Box 25287, Denver, CO 80225-9901

Laurie Hauke
Airboating Magazine
 
:D Thank you Hawk. It'd be a lot easier to fill out this comment card and mail it in than the two-hour conversation you had with Frank. Thank you again and both of your ears don't get me wrong Frank is a good man but boy he can turn a five minute conversation into one hour but he has a lot of info. This is easy guys downloaded fill it out mail-in.
 
BICY Addition Lands public hearing on the new Management Plan.
THE MEETING WILL BE HELD:
MAY 3 FROM 5:00- 7:30 PM
@WESTON BRANCH LIBRARY

4205 BONAVENTURE BLVD.

The above date and location is where the NPS is holding their public hearing on the management plan for the Big Cypress National Preserve Addition Lands.




For more information go to:
Bob DeGross
Chief of Interpretation
Big Cypress National Preserve

33100 Tamiami Trail East
Ochopee, FL 34141-1000

239-695-1107 office, 239-340-0123 cell, 239-695-3901 fax.
 
Hawk,

Spent about 10 years there hunting off my swampbuggy. Big Cypress will always hold a place in my heart.

With only I believe like 2,000 acres to legally airboat there out of the 500,000... the management plan there has always needed "tweaking".

Got the form and will mail later today, (although the open comments link is at the top of the page). Thank you for "taking the ball and running". Good to have ya'll on board with your watchful eyes. Do ya'll ever sleep :shock:

Basketcase
 
Folks this is easy to find and easy to print and the mailing is free :shock: so print more than one like 20 given to your friends to mail-in. :evil: This land has been closed to the public for 15 years?? :twisted: That's right the state has owned this land for 15 years and has keep us out so help put a into this.
You can rest assure that the other side is taking the time to fill this out and mail it in .
Bishop.
 
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Hello all,
As you know the comment period is open for the Big Cypress Addition Lands, to make it easier I have included online links here, that take you directly to the information.

Alternatives:
http://parkplanning.nps.gov/document.cf ... ntID=18675

online Comment Form
http://parkplanning.nps.gov/commentForm ... ntId=18675

I also put the links on my web site and the meeting time, dates and where
http://www.bigcypressswamp.com/

You are welcome to forward this on to anyone, making it easier for them to comment.
The NPS could do the same thing, but they want you to jump through hoops.

Steve
http://www.BigCypressSwamp.com
 
EVERGLADES COORDINATING COUNCIL​

SUGGESTED COMMENTS FOR THE
BIG CYPRESS NATIONAL PRESERVE ADDITION GENERAL MANAGEMENT PLAN WORKSHOPS​

Naples — May 1, 2007, Edison College, 7007 Lely Cultural Parkway, 5:00 PM - 7:30 PM

Everglades City — May 2, 2007, Everglades City School, 415 School Dr., 5:00 PM - 7:30 PM

Weston — May 3, 2007, Weston Branch Library, 4205 Bonaventure Blvd, 5:00 PM - 7:30 PM

ECC Delegates, Affiliate Members, and Friends:

Big Cypress National Preserve (BICY) will be holding three workshops to receive public input related to the BICY Addition General Management Plan (GMP) now in development. The input format will be agency manned “flip chart” stations for each of six Alternatives set up throughout the room to record verbal comments. Questionnaires soliciting written comments on four specific questions will also be available.

None of the Alternatives currently offered would provide the level of access for hunting, fishing, frogging, and other traditional recreation assured by the enabling legislation. The following are comments the ECC BICY Committee has compiled to help guide you in making comments that will be helpful in our quest to convince the NPS to develop a Preferred Alternative that will meet the needs of the hunters and fishers and other members of the Gladesman culture.

Please help us make sure the following comments are recorded on the flip charts for each Alternative. Comments in bold are priority items:

GMP development process

I protest that a full range of Alternatives have not been presented.

The existing GMP for the Original Preserve should simply be expanded to include the Addition.

I protest this unnecessary process, BUT will participate as a good citizen, nonetheless.


Congressional intent is clear about its expectation for traditional recreational uses and the NPS has a moral obligation to develop a GMP within that spirit.

Proposed Wilderness Designation

The Addition lands and waters are not suitable for Wilderness eligibility due to the intrusion of human uses (traffic noise) from I-75 and SR 29.


Existing soundscape (I-75/SR 29) precludes eligibility as Wilderness.

Wilderness eligibility could prevent wildfire suppression and impose grave threat to human life and safety from smoke-related traffic accidents on I-75 and SR 29.
Wilderness designation will preclude habitat management practices which are proven to be necessary in Florida for endangered and common species of wildlife to thrive.

Wilderness designation will unavoidably result in a “taking” of Florida panthers and other protected species.

Wilderness eligibility must not be measured by the absence of human activities resulting from DOI/NPS deliberately extending closures of congressionally authorized uses for nearly twenty years in order to create those Wilderness conditions.

Primitive Backcountry Designation

Primitive backcountry designation should be removed from the Alternatives B, C, D, E, and F, as it unlawfully reclassifies areas.


Remove Primitive Backcountry from Alternatives B, C, D, E, and F, and manage the Addition as specified in Section 3 of the BICY Addition Act.

Primitive Backcountry will prevent the type and level of access and use assured by Congress.

Alternative A

I protest Status Quo being measured by the 2007-level of access and uses after an illegally extended closure, rather than at levels in existence at time of congressional authorization.


The public should not be penalized for the NPS failure to comply with a congressional mandated timeline to document levels of recreational uses of the Addition and Original Preserve, and the anticipated increase of recreational uses and adequacy of access facilities.

Failure to develop a GMP in a timely fashion should not be considered Status Quo.

Alternatives B, C, D, E, and F

Alternative B can work if significant revisions are made to eliminate zoning, wilderness eligibility, and adequate primary ORV trails are provided to get people of average health and fitness to all areas of the Addition for authorized recreational uses.

Primary ORV trails must be within one mile of one another and provide connection to the Original Preserve. The ORV trail system should include at least one primary trail throughout the Addition east of SR 29.

Culturally important sites in remote locations must be ORV accessible.


The Addition lands must be determined to be non-suitable for Wilderness designation due to not meeting Criteria 2 related to soundscape.

I protest the use of “zoning” in this process. Hiking, biking, equestrian activities, camping at designated and undesignated sites, motor boating (including airboats), paddling, ORV use, hunting, fishing, frogging, research, and modern habitat management practices should be permitted throughout the Addition.

All types of boats should be allowed, including airboats.

ORV permits for the Addition must be issued free to holders of ORV permits for the Original Preserve, and vice versa.

Reduction of congressionally authorized traditional recreation must not be used to mitigate new recreational uses.

The Addition Act authorizes development of access sites for traditional recreational activities.

A new preliminary Alternative G must be presented to allow for traditional access and uses without Wilderness or Primitive Backcountry restricted zones, as the enabling legislation allows.

Minerals Management

Congressionally authorized minerals exploration and extraction operations must not be allowed to displace congressionally mandated public access and traditional recreational activities.


Traditional cultural activities must be allowed to coexist with mineral exploration and extraction operations.
 
10-4...cool.

Those comments are impressive... they really hit the issues squarely.
I could'nt agree with them more.

I already sent in the first batch of suggested comments above.... so I'm not sure if I should do it again.
 
Hi Cowboy :wink: some of us from the west palm area will be headed down to the public comment meeting on Thursday night in Fort Lauderdale we normally Meet at the Lake Worth exit on the turnpike and carpool from their if any of y'all would like to get additional comment this is the way to do it. We do have a strategy plan going so come down and join in, That is how we make a difference we are going to have to fight for our rights from here on out the more the merrier. If any all attend the meeting in Naples or Everglades city look around for Frank or Barbara they will lead you in the right direction. Thanks converted for posting the strategy list. Just remember if you stay home run that channel changer and use these areas people like me who have never used this area and probably never will :arrow: probably will not be able to save this area by ourselves or without you. But not to worry the environmentalists will be there taking up your seat so you probably won't be missed. I am sorry for the attitude but if this was opening day of hunting season the room would be full.
 
BWright,

I did get the "first" letter sent with the above responses. Sure wish we lived a little closer to be able to make the meeting down there, (but I aint' moving back to Naples) :shock:

Barbara Jean Powell has been doing a wonderful job with the Everglades Coordinating Council for many years now. She is truly a hunters and outdoorsmans best advocate that could ever be had. She does need support though. There's a lot more of ya'll on this website now that live down there, ya'll are in a good position to be able to help! Please attend one of these meetings and show your support if at all possible!

Having hunted Big Cypress for 8 years I can tell you it's a beautiful place, (yeah our tax dollars pay for it too)! Would be really nice to get these additional lands for airboating instead of the measly 2K or so presently there!

Basketcase
 
Last Thurs night man.
Wish I coulda been there for that.
Thanks to all who did go on behalf of the traditional use of this resource.
 
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