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Black Powder Rifle

Airboatcapt2

Airboatcapt2

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I am trying to get more info on Black Powder Rifles. Can some of you guys recommend what is a good beginner model? I know it will give me a jump on the hunting season and that's what I am after.

Please give me some pointers. What types, or models to look at?
I have seen $150 to $500 and they all look the same to me.

Thanks
 
Thompson center is one of the best all around rifles they make both modern and traditional I have been into black powder for 27 years and the powder that I found to be the best is called clean shot it works just like black powder but it will not fowel or rust your gun.I like the traditional rifles the modern one are kind of like cheating to me it defeats the reason for black powder.
 
Sniper, I respect the "ART" of True Black powder but I am looking for a Modern, simple, Great shooting Black powder rifle that I can get a jump on hunting season with. I want it to be a dependable, accurate, easy to clean rifle.

I have head great things about the Thompson Center Rifles but not sure what model to start with.
 
Faron, I thought that out in Texas they were still all gettin er done with knives and black powder ...... :lol: . God bless Texas.

I don't know if you're aware of this but in the State Charter for Texas, to this day, they still retain the right to ceceed from the Union and divide Texas into seven States.

Lone Star beer, long legged cowgirls, dancing to a jukebox and shootin pool. Man, it don't get no better. Best chicken fried steak and white onion gravy I ever tasted was in a truck stop in Victoria.
 
Faron,
Checkout CVA Optima 209 Muzzleloaders. Mine is 50 cal, 26" stainless barrel with MossyOak Obsession camo stock. Truglo sights. Fits great , easy to use breakdown breach style. Like useing a single shot shotgun.
Got it at Basspro in Orlando.

Bob
 
And the best Chicken fried steak I ever had was in Security Texas, east of Conroe. :lol:

Bob
 
Thompson is sort of the top of the line rifle. decent workmanship and everything works as advertised.

I think though that for a person starting out, if there is any uncertainty as to whether the interest will take hold long term, I would point them to the Charles Daily Imports. I used a Daily Hawkin for 20 years and never had a misfire. Mine was the percussion variety. Never had a complaint about the one I had.

Conneticut Valley Arms has some nice ones too. Never owned or shot one but had a friend loved his.

For me personally I am not a fan of the fake black powders. For me its the real deal or nothing. The smoke is part of the experience, as is taking the thing apart and showering with it at the end of the hunt.

In hunting application you will likely never shoot it enough times to experience foweling from burned powder. Now on field days at the range or at jamboryees etc, well thats a different story.

Scotty
 
Bear, I shot some trap with a Charles Daily 12 ga. Damn fine weapons.

Swamp, after I'd eaten that plate the little waitress came over with a bowl of warm peach cobler. I told her I hadn't ordered dessert, and she said " I know, but it just came out of the oven and it looked so good I just thought you might want some. It's on the house."

So I ate the cobbler .... :) . About 20 minutes down the road I got so sleepy I had to pull off to the side in a weigh station and take a nap to keep from killin myself. :lol:
 
airboatcapt2

Stick with something in stainless steal for somebody just starting out it is the best way to go like swampjet said.Thompson centers Contender or Auncore is the most accurate muzzel loader made by any one it is good up to about 300 yrds and you can change the barrel and make a real nice single shot rifle out of it to so you can have two guns in one but there not cheap and Savage makes one that shoots smokeless powder I think it it the meanest of the muzzel loaders.
 
Damn I just did a google search for Charles Daily and I got nothing. Looks like everyone is selling inline muzzle loaders now. I'm frustrated. Seems like Black Powder is just being used as a means to collect more game instead of for the experience of black powder hunting.

Oh well. Maybe its better that way. Get the most modern easiest to shoot and maintain gun you can find. Compare it to modern cartidge guns everyone is familiar with and wella, no mess no fuss, jus go shoot more game.

Scotty
 
Airboatcapt2, I bought mine from Cabela's it's called a bear tooth magnum made by New Frontier only like 150.00 or so. Breaks down like a shot gun very easy to clean and maintain. I have had this model for about 3 years now shoots up to 150 grains of pyrodex pellets and very acurate. each year I get 1-2- bucks.
wayne
 
Thanks for all the help guys,
I will go down to bass pro this week and has at look at the models your guys reccomend.

Is there anything to be sure to avoid?
 
Yes, I would avoid the old school type... get something easy to take apart and clean and that shoots the modern powder pellets and bullets..JMO :D
 
Faron no matter what model you settle on the lock works should be smooth and crisp. Triggers too. Look closely at the nipple arangement and make sure you dont have to special order replacement nipples. Tha hammer cup should fall very close to if not exactly center of the nipple.

On the outside, form, fit and finish should be at least decent. Scratches, missing or marred finish should be rejected. I would stay away from smooth bores, stay with a rifled barrel and mini-balls.

Any engraving should be clean and crisp. I am a fan of brass fittings so if you are getting brass parts make sure the castings were cleaned up and flashings filed or ground off. Should be no air holes in any of the brass.

Most all are far better than the original production rifles were so its hard to stray too far from acceptable.

Scotty
 
I chose the breakdown breech because I couldn't get my fat fingers into where the primer goes on most of the bolt actions. The CVA Optima fit was perfect on grip, sight rise, right hand, hammer style, everything.
And it looks good. (looks are important).

Bob
 
I'll have to agree with Swampjet.I shoot same gun great Power gun.I scoped mine and shot a deer last year at 150 yds no problem.CVA Optima 209 SS barrel, Camo Stock(Bass Pro Shops)
 
For the money The inline Knight 50 cal and with you just starting out get the pyrodex pellets and the 50 cal's wrapped in the plastic wad. It makes life alot easier and much more fun just starting out.
 
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I am trying to get more info on Black Powder Rifles....
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Faron - You need to talk to Basketcase. He's a black powder fanatic. Got a large collection of .50 cal rifles and others too. They are beautiful guns for sure. He's hunted with them and (along with what has already been said here) is a source you'd want to check out.

He's not online at the moment... But when he gets set back up, I'm sure he'll find this thread.

PM or call me if you want his phone contact info.

matt.
 
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