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E-185

AirAg

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An update on my engine I bought. This was a topic on another thread "Found an engine...now to figure out if it's worth shipping." I found the name plate and it said it was a E-185, 2300, 80. That was all I could read. The 2300 I would think is the RPM, with 185hp at 2300??? Not sure what the 80 is?????

I took the carb and intake off and every thing looks good. Just needs to be cleaned.

Their really isnt a lot of corrosion on the motor. Alittle rust here and there on the steel items. Every thing can be cleaned up. I think what most of yall saw in the picture was pealing paint. Really, the engine is in good shape.

Now for the fun part, I did not pull a head yet, but I did pull all spark plugs. All were black and had oil/burn marks, except one had a little rust (not much, but some). I figure that is great news, and think now the engine might be okay internally. There was still some oil in the engine, with no water in sight (thats what I was afraid of). I kind of thought it was sunk at one time, or had rain water in the cylinders.

After the plugs were pulled, I could turn the crankshaft by hand. It was real hard to do it, but I was able. Dont know if that is a good or bad thing that it was pretty hard to turn the crank.

Overall, I am pleased with the purchase now, and look forward to building this engine. I am sure you guys will be involved, b/c there are alot of things on here that I have questions about. I hope to have pictures up soon.

Thanks, Brent
 
The 80 stands for 80 octane minimal rating. Sounds like you might have gotten an awesome deal.

Larry
 
Next step is do a leakdown test befoe ya go much further, it could tell a lot and either save or indicate a lot of work ahead.

Scotty
 
Sounds good so far. We have a few of those engines on Bonanzas at the field I fly out of. It is a great 470 cubic inch motor. It has the spline prop shaft instead of the flanged crank. I have no idea how one fixes that for an airboat prop. My guess is others on this site can help.

If the engine has been sitting for a long time I would fill the cylinders with automatic transmission fluid to eat the rust on the rings before I turned it over. I think the best thing to do is tear it down completely and do a first class overhaul before you run it. That will save big bucks in the long run and give you a known quantity.
 
I would definitely pull all cylinder and hone each one and put new rings in, make sure that they mic out to specs. As for the flange Bob Carlton is the only guy I know of that knows how to fix it right.
 
Thanks for all the replies so far. I am really excited about the engine. It will be awhile before I bolt it on and test it out. Yes, like I said before, the crackshaft is my biggest worry. I dont have a problem pulling the jugs, just would hate to split the case, but will if have to.

Does anyone have a picture of a spline shaft and the way it is mounted to a prop? A picture will say a thousand words. I understand that a whirlwind prop is the only carbon fiber you can mount on one of these with out machine work being done to the shaft.

How do I tell if it is a dry or wet sump?

Thanks for all the help.

Brent
 
I believe seinsnich makes a hub for the splined shaft.If not Dick Waters at Air-tec can put a flange on it for you.If Bob carlton does it your looking to wait atleast a year if he ever gets it done.
 
I believe seinsnich makes a hub for the splined shaft.If not Dick Waters at Air-tec can put a flange on it for you.If Bob carlton does it your looking to wait atleast a year if he ever gets it done.
 
Thanks for the replies, when I get a chance, I will call around and find a hub for this thing.

Here are some pictures of the motor.

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I know nothing of aircraft engines, so here is dumb question. Is this a dry sump motor? Is there a dipstick for the motor itself, or would that be in the spare oil tank?

I have to ask to learn.

Thanks,

Brent
 
Yes Airag,it is a dry sump motor and if your going to split the case and put a flange on the crank,you might as well bore the case and put 520 jugs on it and make another 100HP.
 
AirAg, I'm glad you ended up with a decient motor or at least one with potential.
Did I read it right that the seller bumped the price from $200 to $800.? Seems like the seller changed the terms from a fixed price to an auction without telling anyone, which is bad ju-ju.
keep us posted with photo's and up-dates... if nothing else I'd bet you could part it out and still make money.
 
Yeah he bumped the price up, and probably took me as a sucker. But after I saw the engine, I figured the mags, carb, and crank would at least be $800. Even the starter on this thing is pricey.

I just wanted a project, and I finally have one. I have been talking about what engine to buy for a long time on here, and I finally found one local to go see for myself.

What was surprising to me was that yall were looking into this engine as well. I honestly did not know yall were interested in it. I saw the post late Sat night after I got it. Anyway, hope I didnt step on anyones toes for picking it up.

I am sure I will be asking loads of questions, so i'll keep yall updated on the build, etc...

Brent
 
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