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FAA artwork

Whitebear

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This keeps coming up in random threads so I thought it might use its own topic. Anyone wanting to contribute post it here. If you have something you would like for me to incorpporate in one of my designs just email it to me. I will archive it and then post a jpg. of it on my web server. The original artwork I do will be in .vsd format and the .jpg posts will be just for viewing.

I gather this needs to be line art or something easily replicated by an embriodery machine. Complex designs don't work wery well.

I gather this is for hats, shirts, maybe ID cards etc. Who knows. Might even work as Letterhead logo as well.

Comments and contributions solicited.

Scotty
 
I'm not necessarily an artist, but I do a LOT of line art with MS Visio. I can cut .jpgs into it and such. Im guessing embroidery is basically line art. I'll play with it some this week and see what I can come up with. I'll post a link to it if I get anything worth looking at.

I have created a folder in my gallery for this at:

http://www.ursinecom.com/gallery/view_a ... umName=FAA

Concept on display now, check it.

Ideas and comments solicited.

Scotty
 
Scotty,
Very nice! The FAA needs some graphic work. What you have is nice. I think the outline you have is nice but could use more action and maybe the outline of the state of Florida as a watermark or the historical flags of Florida as a background. (Spanish, Brit, USA, Florida Sovereign, CSA) to represent a long history & heritage)

If SA wants to work on this and say have a couple of proposals for a logo ready for the April 8th meeting, we can present it to the members for a vote. Ya'll start dialog on this....... Great idea at the right time.

If you're not carefull, you may end up as a committee chair on the matter.

PW
 
Ok I'll work up some historical flags. I saw them on line last night. Im working til Tuesday so I wont get much done between now and then unless things get really slack at work.

I want to comment on backgrounds. Everything I do is with no background. It will have the background of whatever it is enbroidered on. If we want a background its simple to add as well.

Keep in mind also that with the exception of a white shirt, the black lines in the airboat will be white not black.

For the process, simple is best. If it gets complex it will look trashy when its embroidered. Keep in mind what I drew so far is LARGER than life so when its scalled down it gets busy.

With MS Visio I cant accurately rotate lettering around a circle, I can place each letter around it but all letters will have a horizontal axis. It does make it easier to read though.

I'll be home in April so until then yeh I can work on this anytime I'm not out in the field here. I can archive all the components and pass them on as needed. I'm sure I'm not the only one with ideas and someone else might save time if they want to reuse the components.

Scotty
 
Nice work Scotty! I like them.
Espeacially the version with the American flag in it, as well as the Florida flag on the boat.
 
Nice! Laura and I like the oval shape of #6 But I hope the lines come out a little fatter. Super duper Scotty! They all look pretty good.

Also, Rick, it looks like Scotty found or drew the vector airboat you were looking for. :)

matt.
 
Ok I did #7 based on suggestions of heavier lines, larger letters, smaller airboat, eliminate speed lines behind airboat, and smaller American Flag. The green background is just for perspective. Any color background is a one click change.

http://www.ursinecom.com/gallery/view_p ... _Concept_7

In #8 I have the Fla outline but I can not show it with any background but white. Were this being embroidered on a green or whatever background it wouldnt matter as long as the background isnt embroidered in as well. As in if its done on green cloth.

http://www.ursinecom.com/gallery/view_p ... _Concept_8

This is one of the limitations of using this program, it is not Photoshop and it doesn't do layers.

You also can not watermark embroidery.

Ill work on the oval some after I nap a bit.

Scotty
 
Ok, Concept #9 is the Florida historial flads idea.

http://www.ursinecom.com/gallery/view_p ... _Concept_9

All these flags have flown over Florida.

Concept 10 is an updated oval I can work on.

http://www.ursinecom.com/gallery/view_p ... Concept_10

From here we need to pair it down to maybe 3 to work on. Let me know what ya think. I kinda like the last round one, the oval and the flags. I think they have the most promise. If we pair it down I'll delete the others and concentrate on the final 3 we choose. or work on a still different idea altogether.

Comments solicited.

Scotty
 
ok I see the thread has a lot of views and the web page folder has nearly 150 hits but not many comments here. This coming Tuesday I'll pare these down to the ones that have had comments.

From there we need to find out what format FAA wants submissions in. Is .jpg ok or do they need something like Autocad or Photoshop or what?

I'll work with anyone on any of it but to get something submittable in March I need to at least have an idea what has to be done.

As far as the actual artwork, I can do the concepts and even submit in certain formats if the FAA has the ability to take it from there. Just need to know what they need.


Scotty
 
Scotty, I like both of your latest ideas but the history lover in me pulls me toward #9. I think that the airboat is a symbol of a part of Florida's heritage that we should be proud of and one that needs protecting. The placement of the airboat with the flags which have flown over Florida in the past is symbolic of this historical significance. If it's worth anything , it gets my vote.

Adam
 
I like the flags too. Still going to clean it up some some Tuesday, but I have reservations about how well it will take the embroidery. It's fairly complex with small detail. We will see.

Scotty
 
Man, its hard to chose , there are some really nice ones there. You've done some great work on it. We all thank you for your time and efforts. Later
 
Ok, were down to the three that had comments and results. The others were mostly process and development images that for the most part are incorporated into these final 3 images.

I cleaned up the images some and corrected some spacing. Theres always room for change and inprovement though so anything anyone sees that needs attention please comment. If the FAA does adopt something submitted by SA ir bases something new on the SA submissions, it sure doesnt hurt SA's standing any.

Heres the final 3 so far. you can lick on each image to enlarge it. Hit back to go back to the FAA album.

http://www.ursinecom.com/gallery/view_a ... umName=FAA

Scotty
 
I like the oval one. A LOT! :)

Scotty - Is there any way to make the text along the edge curve around a path WITHOUT remaining standing straight up? (vertical letters) Can you make the letters perpendicular to the path?

Generally speaking, a script-like font is less professional than a block font. The letters around the edge should be a san-serif font IMHO. It'll take to embroidery easier, and when small on a letterhead, or on a fax it would be more readable.

Who made the FAA seal that was on the white shirts that the KRVSA had at the swap meet? It did not look bad either. That artwork is already done, looks pertty good, and may just be a case of "flip a switch" to put it into use. Someone somewhere has it. The shirt says "Westgate Resorts" on the front. Something leftover from the Rodeo maybe? Possibly that seal was done by Westgate's graphics department. (or agency) I'll try to get a photo of the seal.

matt.
 
Ok, Mood.

I can change the font to anything we want it to be. true Type fonts work easiest but I can do any font there is. Even custom fonts.

Ill do one of the three in San Serif tonight and put it up beside the three there now for a visual comparison. Oops I don't have a template for San Sarif. I got the idea though and I'll do it in Veranda, still a TT font, nice stick easy letters.

Next.... No... I can not rotate the test to match the path. I'm using an engineering program not an art program. MS Visio will rotate objects individually but not allign them to an ark or abstract line. What that means is yes I can manually rotate EACH letter and try to space them accurately but no guarantees. I'll give that a try as well but it may n ot be pretty.

Keep in mind these aren't finished art, still working on them so this is EXACTLY the kinds of comments I want/need.

Scotty
 
The old FAA logo is being rapidly phased out. It was never marketed in the past because it really lacks a look of professionalism for things like a letterhead or business card. That's why Scotty went to work on it for us ..... something newer was needed.

Scotty's designs will be considered at the next FAA meeting, so please offer your input. Everything is still being considered, and Scotty is willing and able to make the changes y'all decide on.

BF
 
Scotty - San Serif is not a font - it's a KIND of font. Serifs are the little hooks that stick out from letters (and 'san' means 'not'). Times is a serif font, Verdana is a san-serif font.

Take a look at any of the airboat clubs seals... The airboattrader club listing has several on one page:
http://www.airboattrader.com/Clubs_and_Orgs.htm

10-4 about not being able to make the letters perpendicular to the path, you are right, that is more of a graphics progam function, but from the little work I've done in autocad, if you are using that, I'm pretty sure it's possible. Don't waste time doing it manually, it'll never come out right. Every seal I've ever seen has the letters that way when in an arch. I suppose because it's just easier to read.

I like the font that CCAA uses. Check their seal in the link above. And it's a serif font too. If you have a choice in altering a font's thickness in the printing world the weights are: light, book, (plain), bold, and black. So, you'd want to choose Verdana Black to get the fattest boldest letters. I just think that brush script font you have there, while a nice font, is too casual, but most of all, when small, faxed or embroidered it would deteriorate quickly.

Lookin good though!

matt.
 
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