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Hey Cowboy
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cowboy
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Oh yeah Jim.
It runs well. Real well.
It's hard too judge the performace of the two, because Hosier's boat always has a skunkape on it when were riding together with both boats.
Kinda gives me an edge.
The woodspussy is down right now for a muffler retro-fit.
Last time I parked her she was running well.
I got new headers for her, nothing exotic.
Shes gonna get the same mufflers that Hosier's boats got on them.
Your gonna have to come on down here sometime, and hit the marsh with us.
Sometime before I'm to old!
You'll probably still be giving it hell after I'm wore -out.
It runs well. Real well.
It's hard too judge the performace of the two, because Hosier's boat always has a skunkape on it when were riding together with both boats.
Kinda gives me an edge.
The woodspussy is down right now for a muffler retro-fit.
Last time I parked her she was running well.
I got new headers for her, nothing exotic.
Shes gonna get the same mufflers that Hosier's boats got on them.
Your gonna have to come on down here sometime, and hit the marsh with us.
Sometime before I'm to old!
You'll probably still be giving it hell after I'm wore -out.
I am going to take you up on that one!
Since Marshmaster Pat got fed up with the BS and left, you are the Palm Beach guy, so I have some questions.
I am 69 and I really miss my memory, so let's see how I do. By the way we have never met and I have never seen your boats in person.
Your boat is about 12ft Palm Beach with an IO360 angle valve front loader injected motor with a lot of hours on it. It formerly belonged to Onion. 1972 model if I remember right.
Your brother's boat is about 12ft Palm Beach with a O360 straight valve carbureted motor. It formerly belonged to Hosier. Both boats are custom built. Maybe 10 years old?
The boat that formerly belonged to your Dad is a slightly larger Kline (Palm Beach) with a O470 GPU on it that he purchased from someone in the midwest and was written up in Airboat world.
What props do you run on each, and at what RPM?
What is your technique for starting the injected motor when hot?
jim
Since Marshmaster Pat got fed up with the BS and left, you are the Palm Beach guy, so I have some questions.
I am 69 and I really miss my memory, so let's see how I do. By the way we have never met and I have never seen your boats in person.
Your boat is about 12ft Palm Beach with an IO360 angle valve front loader injected motor with a lot of hours on it. It formerly belonged to Onion. 1972 model if I remember right.
Your brother's boat is about 12ft Palm Beach with a O360 straight valve carbureted motor. It formerly belonged to Hosier. Both boats are custom built. Maybe 10 years old?
The boat that formerly belonged to your Dad is a slightly larger Kline (Palm Beach) with a O470 GPU on it that he purchased from someone in the midwest and was written up in Airboat world.
What props do you run on each, and at what RPM?
What is your technique for starting the injected motor when hot?
jim
UncleBubba
Well-known member
Jim I've seen Cowboy & famliys flet of boats
nice boats cowboy
nice boats cowboy
cowboy
Moderator
Yeah Jim,
That groundy poundy runs pretty darned good Better than I expected.
It is large! It's a big boat. It's all Kline from top to bottom.
When My old man drug it up into my drive way the first time, I was a little dissapointed. I thought it was gonna be a dog. It just seemed like way too much boat for that motor. I figured it would be waaaay underpowered.
It will run dry, and climb a hill. It does just fine for what any reasonable man would want.
Zenith carb on it, and the original genset headers on it, swinging a 71 inch Terminator at around 2850. same prop, and same pitch I have seen a strong 180 spin up that high I'll add.
It's a big comfortable boat. Not the bull of the woods or nothing, but a good boat. Perhaps I'll geardrive it one day. I know that would please my old man! I just need some extra time and money to get that done. Maybe one day I'll get what I need for that to happen.
Hosier's rig has a good running s/v 180 on it, and it was rigged by Bob. We have an Askey wood Mini-paddle prop on it.
I don't recall the pitch, but it's not the normal size you would expect.
It seems to be a good cruise prop, and it tachs out at 26-27k depending on the air / temp / humidity.
Sometime soon I wanna put a stick sensenich on it that we have, and see how it does when spun on up to 2.9, or 3k.
Right now it performs well.
Runs dry, reasonable hills, ect.
That hull is a Grice. I think he only built 5 of them. This one was his last, or second to last one. It's a finely constructed hull. Rivet spacing is twice as tight as the Simpson we have.
Onion's boat as you remembered correctly has a tired old front loader 200 on it. The fuel injection still going, after we went in and straightend a few things out with the servo.
Same for the shower-o-sparks magnetos. I used to feel like I won the lotto every time I could get it to crank. Now it starts like the sun comes up! There aint a darned thing wrong with shower of sparks, so long as you get a slickstart mag booster, and trash the bendix vibrator.
Shower of sparks may make hand propping a difficult ordeal as opposed to impulse couplings, but then again..... well You know.
It swings a 68" x 40" sensenich stick, and might pull a 42 pitch.
It will spin 29 static easy with the 40" pitch.
The fuel lean to cut off is rigged for use on the servo, but it also has an electric fuel shut off soleniod in between the servo, and fuel divider.
Just flip a toggle, and it shuts right down.
BTW. I always keep a piece of copper line in the boat to patch that thing out if it ever fails to re-open for me in the woods.
On a hot start, I crank it over till it lights, then open the solenoid as quickly as possible. When I forget to follow this procedure,and open it before it cranks, it's a slightly flooded condition upon fire up.
I think the shower of sparks helps fire throught the flooding better, cause it never really is a huge deal to crank it either way.
I don't pound on that old motor too hard if I can help it Jim. I don't wanna grenade it before I can get around to re-building it.
SHEEZ!
Y'all think having on boat in the yard is tough, try having three!
The projects are never ending with one boat alone.
Hey Bubba,
Thanks for the compliment.
Just don't lean up against that white one when you see it.
If it ain't rust you get on your shirt, it will be grease or oil
Here's the Klien and Grice at the levee pumpstation on Okeechobee.
That groundy poundy runs pretty darned good Better than I expected.
It is large! It's a big boat. It's all Kline from top to bottom.
When My old man drug it up into my drive way the first time, I was a little dissapointed. I thought it was gonna be a dog. It just seemed like way too much boat for that motor. I figured it would be waaaay underpowered.
It will run dry, and climb a hill. It does just fine for what any reasonable man would want.
Zenith carb on it, and the original genset headers on it, swinging a 71 inch Terminator at around 2850. same prop, and same pitch I have seen a strong 180 spin up that high I'll add.
It's a big comfortable boat. Not the bull of the woods or nothing, but a good boat. Perhaps I'll geardrive it one day. I know that would please my old man! I just need some extra time and money to get that done. Maybe one day I'll get what I need for that to happen.
Hosier's rig has a good running s/v 180 on it, and it was rigged by Bob. We have an Askey wood Mini-paddle prop on it.
I don't recall the pitch, but it's not the normal size you would expect.
It seems to be a good cruise prop, and it tachs out at 26-27k depending on the air / temp / humidity.
Sometime soon I wanna put a stick sensenich on it that we have, and see how it does when spun on up to 2.9, or 3k.
Right now it performs well.
Runs dry, reasonable hills, ect.
That hull is a Grice. I think he only built 5 of them. This one was his last, or second to last one. It's a finely constructed hull. Rivet spacing is twice as tight as the Simpson we have.
Onion's boat as you remembered correctly has a tired old front loader 200 on it. The fuel injection still going, after we went in and straightend a few things out with the servo.
Same for the shower-o-sparks magnetos. I used to feel like I won the lotto every time I could get it to crank. Now it starts like the sun comes up! There aint a darned thing wrong with shower of sparks, so long as you get a slickstart mag booster, and trash the bendix vibrator.
Shower of sparks may make hand propping a difficult ordeal as opposed to impulse couplings, but then again..... well You know.
It swings a 68" x 40" sensenich stick, and might pull a 42 pitch.
It will spin 29 static easy with the 40" pitch.
The fuel lean to cut off is rigged for use on the servo, but it also has an electric fuel shut off soleniod in between the servo, and fuel divider.
Just flip a toggle, and it shuts right down.
BTW. I always keep a piece of copper line in the boat to patch that thing out if it ever fails to re-open for me in the woods.
On a hot start, I crank it over till it lights, then open the solenoid as quickly as possible. When I forget to follow this procedure,and open it before it cranks, it's a slightly flooded condition upon fire up.
I think the shower of sparks helps fire throught the flooding better, cause it never really is a huge deal to crank it either way.
I don't pound on that old motor too hard if I can help it Jim. I don't wanna grenade it before I can get around to re-building it.
SHEEZ!
Y'all think having on boat in the yard is tough, try having three!
The projects are never ending with one boat alone.
Hey Bubba,
Thanks for the compliment.
Just don't lean up against that white one when you see it.
If it ain't rust you get on your shirt, it will be grease or oil
Here's the Klien and Grice at the levee pumpstation on Okeechobee.
GREAT BOATS BROTHER !!!
cowboy
Moderator
There kinda like a good cold Bud Scotty.
They seem to work just fine wherever you have one. Most of the time Darn Good! As far as beer goes, original recipe bud seems to be a good allround performer.
Guess you can say that about other beers as well. So there ya go.
Marshmaster was up in LA or East Texas, and he just loved his Kline.
Airag has one up North someplace grinding on some river gravel every once in a while.
Scotty, The big Kline we have was built in Loxahatchee for a customer in KS. It went out there, and was loved by it's owner until my old man and my brother brought it right back to Loxahatchee.
My old man brought it back by Klines shop, and before he could get outta the truck, Kline came out of his shop yelling "Hey That's Paul Hoffmans Boat!"
He remembered the boat, but more so the man. Because of that guy, he couldn't forget about that particular boat.
I betchya Kline never expected to see it return to its home turf after it left for Kansas!
Wish Marshmaster Pat was still around. He was one cool cat.
They seem to work just fine wherever you have one. Most of the time Darn Good! As far as beer goes, original recipe bud seems to be a good allround performer.
Guess you can say that about other beers as well. So there ya go.
Marshmaster was up in LA or East Texas, and he just loved his Kline.
Airag has one up North someplace grinding on some river gravel every once in a while.
Scotty, The big Kline we have was built in Loxahatchee for a customer in KS. It went out there, and was loved by it's owner until my old man and my brother brought it right back to Loxahatchee.
My old man brought it back by Klines shop, and before he could get outta the truck, Kline came out of his shop yelling "Hey That's Paul Hoffmans Boat!"
He remembered the boat, but more so the man. Because of that guy, he couldn't forget about that particular boat.
I betchya Kline never expected to see it return to its home turf after it left for Kansas!
Wish Marshmaster Pat was still around. He was one cool cat.
Scotty,
I hate to be mean but take a look at this video:
http://www.southernairboat.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/1243
jim
I hate to be mean but take a look at this video:
http://www.southernairboat.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/1243
jim