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If ya like riding Kissimmee - show up at KRVSA on 07 Sept.

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Heads up.....SFWMD will attend the KRVSA meeting in Bartow at the Civic Center at 7 pm. on Sept. 07. They will discuss their plans for "beginning to control airboat access, hunting pressure and take" around the Lake Kissimmee / Hatchineha / Gardners wetlands system. Hidden within this is the location of "No Airboat" signs and boundaries.

There was an informational meeting yesterday on the shores of Lake Hatchineha with Osceola and KRVSA club leadership and SFWMD representatives. Maps were revealed that showed some expansion of small game hunting from the Kiss St. Park to Shady Oaks - and the elimination of deer and turkey hunting along that corridor.

Much of this is a direct result of the decline in deer populations in the area associated with the ten day antlerless deer harvest period and the explosion of run and gun airboat hunting during that period.

We questioned the location of the "No Airboats" signs and where they were to be located. We are demanding the signs be located behind the lake berm so there is no question that a shady rest stop, camp site or picnic under the oaks is completely legal. There is resistance to that from SFWMD.

Also, there is one map that shows the lake shoreline marsh from Overstreet to the entrance to Gardners as "closed" to airboats. SFWMD was reminded about KRVSA vs. McNamara and the resulting decision that established public access to sovereign submerged lands at 54'5".

SFWMD showed great concern for the adjoining landowners and the possible costs associated with them having to install new fencing to separate their lands from ours.......go figure.

This one will probably get sticky. Ya'll come and bring your check books.
 
Dave, I will do my best to be there and I will have my dues in hand to renew my membership.....

Folks, even if you don't ride much in this area, KRVSA is one of the leaders in fighting for your airboat rights!!!! It would be wise to support them. Give an inch and they'll take a mile......

Adam
 
BIGDADDY WHERE DO I SIGN UP BROTHER ? I CANT MAKE THE MEETING BUT I WILL DAMN SURE SEND IN SOME MONEY FOR A MEMBERSHIP IF THAT WILL HELP THE FIGHT ..CAN YOU GIVE ME A ADDRESS....THANK YOU SIR.
 
"SFWMD showed great concern for exisiting land owners .... "

Man, where have we heard this one before? There is so much money behind this that we can't even begin to comprehend it.
If I can't come with my checkbook, Big Daddy, I'm in for a contribution. This may stack up to be the first great test case, not just for airboaters, but for Floridians vs. Developers.
Can you imagine how many waterfront homes could be built on the Kissimmee chain ?

olf
 
Yall no BS This need to be a get togather of us our support ! Get off you butt !Lets go ! These boys have done good in the past! I am sure they will again !Its just not thier fight its all of ours ! :D Mr D-BREWSTER go to club talk ! You will see it ! Print it and send it ! :D thanks
 
There will be a continuing need for financial support. FAA must raise the necessary funds to retail competent professional representation. This is a current and ongoing need.

KRVSA will be there to defend everyone's access to sovereign submerged lands - likely against several entities that are far better funded - even one that operates on taxpayer "contributions".

Thank Goodness, FAA voted at an ExComm meeting ten days ago to make Danny Brantley lead dog for all Kissimmee Valley issues. It's our responsibility to build the necessary support to stand behind his leadership. Unity and Determination.
 
I was talking with one of the FWC officers out on Hatchineha last night and he was under the impression that this was pretty much a done deal but then said that he really didn't know for sure.....my point is this: show up for the meeting and here it from the horse's mouth!!!!

What the officer said was in the "proposal":
1. Making hogs "small game" and opening up the lands behind the blue signs to small game hunting (everywhere in the marsh, not just the stretch from the park to shady oaks)

2. Eliminating the deer hunt in Gardner/Cobb Marsh...as early as this year!!!!!!!

Again this was all speculation from an LEO so don't hold it as gospel but the rumor started somewhere.....

Just think, if SWFMD is so worried about the landowners, I'm not so sure that we'll ever see the water come back up to it's full levels.

Adam
 
Can not make the meeting, sent money to become a site supporter, hope it helps, best I can do. Please keep us posted, can we contact anybody via e-mail or send letters to voice our concerns and opinions.
 
There are a few hints out there that should raise the hairs and hackles of every outdoor enthusiast who treasures hands on contact with the Kissimmee Valley.

SFWMD has announced they are hiring "consultants" to develop a public use plan for the Kissimmee Valley. Among those to be consulted are Nature Conservancy, Audubon and Sierra. They are considered "users". Can anyone out there not see "preservationist / highly limited public access in this triad" ???

I know miss a lot.....BUT, I've yet to see any of the aformentioned champions of public use and easy access show up and lift a single can or piece of debris from the shores of these wetlands during any announced cleanup / improvement effort.

If you want to get a hold on their MOABs, take a few minutes and review the following links. The comments preceeding them suggest another area of concern from SFWMD's perspective. These listed below are NOT my words::


I did a little research on live oak root damage. Some of the links in the word doc. I attached describe some level of protection for oaks; something that should at least be considered……and S.O.D. (sudden oak death syndrome) may one day be in Florida so trees stressed by environmental and human damage may be stressed to a level that allows the fungal pathogen to kill them.

The below sites are for Scleria…..

thanks

http://aquat1.ifas.ufl.edu/aq-w01-3.html

http://cars.er.usgs.gov/Nonindigenous_S ... stris.html
 
I hear ya Bigdaddy,
Here's a link to quotes from some of the green movement's leaders, and role models.

This helps define the mindset you speak of. They cannot be reasoned with. Any human is the enemy. Airboat or no airboat.

http://htomc.dns2go.com/text/ENVIRO.TXT

I think these folks are a bunch of nutlets.
Well funded and organized ones though.
Scary!
 
Well BigD, I guess they are bound and determined to make a bunch of nice people outlaws again....because plenty of us will still enjoy that marsh.... :roll:

Adam
 
We can talk trash, but we should also start talking Wrights Nut-Rush clean-up's.

I doubt your ever gonna see them pick-up trash, much less pull weeds.

Airboaters will!

Headline:
2.5 tons of non native vegetation removed, and two trillion nutlets destroyed by volunteer airboaters.
 
Thanks Cowboy you just ruined my day! I HATE this people and I feel confidant if we were to be forced back to the stone age as one of them wishes all the stupid ignorant environmentalist would rapidly die as us good ole boy's would prosper. The very thought of cave man or Indian mentality means to me survival of the fittest. I'm game then I could beat the snaught out of all the environmentalist who live in their crazy dream world. That whole link was all crap. Man these people are crazy read the (feeding a staving baby is wrong) line. If I heard some of these people spew this crap in person I don't know if I could contain myself. Because if were no different the animals AND LIVE LIKE ANIMALS AS THESE PEOPLE WISH WE WOULD do they realize when an animal don't like another they kill it or fight it so let's live just as the animals do and kill people to take their food, women or land that's how it is in nature. These morons feel they have the right to fire bomb business and SUV's. So by their law I have the right to exert my opinion on them. God I want to hit something. ARRRRRRRRRRRGH!
 
Just sit and think of the Grizzly man or whatever he was called for a moment.

That will make you feel better.

It works for me every time! :twisted:

Man, I love a happy ending!
 
That was the best comedy of the year! I loved the helicopter pilot who said "I think the bear just though humm I wonder what retard tastes like" Perfect example Cowboy! Grizzly man in his own words was protecting the bears.
 
I know osceola county is run by the ranchers and the lawmakers and politicians areput in office by support of these big money people and they are catered to and they try and do what the big money boys want so it will be a long uphill battle but we can do it with the right representives we can win this battle the krvsa has done an excellant job of fighting for us and I am sure they will to contintue to do a good job for us.
 
Thanks for reminding me, Cowboy. Sometimes I drift off there and forget what a great service to humanity that bear performed .... :D .

olf
 
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