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It's about damn time!!!

Capt Jeff

Well-known member
November 05. 2006 6:59AM

No ducking law in hunting case
Osceola residents charged with harassment of waterfowl hunters.



Waterfowler Chris McDonald grew tired of being harassed.

The South Bend resident and his hunting companions have been badgered by a handful of St. Joseph River residents for two years.

"Every time the ducks would fly in or we'd shoot, they'd begin blowing air horns, play loud music, or come out to confront us," said McDonald, a construction worker and avid duck hunter.

"I couldn't deal with it anymore."

McDonald contacted DNR conservation officers by cell phone when a similar incident occurred during the two-day mini-season Oct. 14-15. Before officers arrived, harassing residents went into hiding. When the officers left, a resident boated into McDonald's decoys and began harassing him again.

"He told me he didn't care if he got fined cause he'd pay any fine they threw at him," McDonald said.

Well, he's gonna get a chance to put his money where his mouth is, because McDonald reported the incident again and DNR officials stepped in and caught two residents red-handed.

"I got a call from an officer Friday night suggesting I not hunt the same place on the river," McDonald said. "I knew something was up."

When duck season resumed Saturday morning, two "hunters" took McDonald's spot on the river not far from Baugo Bay. Once the clock ticked to legal shooting hours, they opened up on passing ducks.

It wasn't long before loud music blared from speakers positioned along the shore.

And an air horn blared. Repeatedly.

Meanwhile a tape machine in the duck hunters' boat recorded it all. Unbeknownst to the residents, the hunters were conservation officers Mark Hines and Mike Fox.

On the opposite river bank, officer John Mortimore watched it all from a spotting scope.

"They continued to harass my guys until we called off the operation and went to shore to confront the people," said Mortimore.

Two Osceola residents were cited for violations of Indiana's Hunter Harassment Law. Mortimore wouldn't release their names pending further investigation, but said he believes he has more than enough evidence to get convictions. If so, the harassing residents face fines up to $1,000 and a year in jail.

Mortimore said both parties admitted they were trying to keep the ducks away so they couldn't be hunted.

"I explained to them that was against the law, that McDonald has every right to hunt that section of the river and he was not endangering their life or property," he offered. "Just because you live on a river doesn't mean you own the water or mustn't share the resource."

Mortimore said there are areas of the river where waterfowl hunting would be dangerous and not permitted, but this wasn't one of them.

"People need to educate themselves in regards to hunting activities," Mortimore continued. "Also, if they'd read the history of this country, they'd realize that hunting and trapping is what made this country."

McDonald hopes the ordeal is over and plans to hunt the spot again.

"I didn't want to get anyone in trouble, but they were pushing me to the point I didn't have a choice," he said. "It was either that or I had to hunt someplace else, and this spot is a good one for duck hunting. I wasn't doing anything wrong and am never careless with my gun. I don't take chances."

Mortimore pointed out that the conservation officer's role is to look out for hunters' welfare as well as to check them for hunting violations. Two weeks ago, he took part in a major waterfowl operation in Michiana that targeted waterfowl hunting violators.

"If you live by the edge of the sword, expect to get arrested by the sword," he noted. "That goes for the people who want to interfere with legal sportsmen as well as those who violate our fish and game regulations."

http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pb ... T=Sports03
Boy I love it when the system works my hats off to the DNR officers for this on it was a great plan that worked
"Just because you live on the river doesn't mean you own the water, or musn't share the resource."

Oh man. Halleluiah ! Swampjet, Bondo, are you listening ? Here is a very important precedent for you.

Thought this might also be of interest.......

The Fund for Animals & the US Humane Society have merged and now have over $100 million $$$$ to oppose hunting & hunters. With the shift in power in Washington to the party the Animal Rights folks supported (along with the gun ban & cultural cleansing folks), we need to stay alert.

I was very vocal as a past leader in supporting ALL of our rights to access our natural resources, with an emphasis on sustainable use hunting. (The new state leader did not support these views and worked against them on the topic below.)

While the subject below is dated, the information and positions are still very revelent and accurate. While most of us may never hunt a bear, it’s the principal we better defend (sustainable use hunting) or you may replace "bear" with "deer", "turkey" or "duck".

As of 2006, the public still does not have recreational access to this resource. I hope when the FWC proposes a harvest (should happen in 2007), they recieve strong public support. If not, losing this battle will only encourage another animal to meet the same fate.


Marion Hammer actively worked in support of the Airboat Bill in 2006. Wayne Pacelle is the current chairman of the merged US Humane Society.

http://gamefowlnews.com/archives/2004/S ... 202004.htm


On May 19, 1992, Unified Sportsmen of Florida's Marion Hammer was a guest on a live radio debate show, The Jack Cole Show, on WJNO radio in West Palm Beach, Florida. Ms. Hammer's opponent was Wayne Pacelle, the National Director of FUND FOR ANIMALS, and the subject was the efforts of animal rights groups to ban Black Bear hunting in Florida. It was during this show that Ms. Hammer succeeded in forcing Pacelle to finally admit his organization's real agenda -- to ban
all hunting, of all species, everywhere.

Ms. Hammer reported that the heated debate with Pacelle went as follows:

Hammer: Since we know that Black Bears are not endangered
in Florida and the Florida Game & Fish Commission
reports that they are not even threatened, where in
the state would Fund for Animals support the
hunting of Black Bear?

Pacelle: Nowhere.

Hammer: Where would your organization support Black Bear
hunting - anywhere in the United States?

Pacelle: Nowhere.

Hammer: Where does your organization support the hunting of
deer - anywhere in the United States?

Pacelle: Nowhere.

Hammer: Where, in the United States, does your organization
support any hunting of any species?

Pacelle: Nowhere.

Hammer: So the real agenda and goal of Fund For Animals is
a total ban on all hunting everywhere?

Pacelle: Yes.

Hammer: So all this debate about whether or not the Black
Bear is threatened or endangered and the actual
number of Black Bear that we have in Florida is
really irrelevant since the goal of your
organization is to ban all hunting everywhere?

Pacelle: Yes, but we also oppose dog fights and cock fights.

Hammer: Wait a minute. We're not talking about dog fights
or cock fights. We're talking about hunting and I
want everybody to pay attention and understand that
all this emotional debate and rhetoric has nothing
to do with Black Bears -- it is designed to help
achieve a total ban of all hunting period.

Cole: Hey, I agree with Wayne. I'm opposed to all
hunting everywhere also.

Hammer: That's your choice but the bottom line is that
Wayne has finally admitted that Fund for Animals is
out to ban all hunting everywhere. I hope people
are paying attention because we finally have gotten
them to publicly admit their real agenda.

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gatorstick":19utyhd1 said:
I was very vocal as a past leader in supporting ALL of our rights to access our natural resources, with an emphasis on sustainable use hunting. (The new state leader did not support these views and worked against them on the topic below.)

Who are you refering to???

I'd be interested to see how many of us would actually like to spend Airboat Association money on reopening the bear hunts here in Florida or could they be better spent somewhere else...like on directly airboat related issues??? HMMM, let me think, I'll give money to hunt bears but in doing so I won't have money to fight SFWMD trying to ban us from Kissimmee. Yeah, Right. If in fact Bob Hoover opposed your views on this, I can assure you that he was not alone!!

I've never heard of hunting bears off of airboats. Could this be a new recreational adventure I'm missing here? Maybe we could open up Ocala National Forests to airboats? :lol:
I'm against hunting any predator species but I'd much rather fight the battle with the Water Management folks any day. Much more important issue in my mind. We can hunt bear or not but if we lose the access it really doesn't matter much anyway. Folks was hunting Florida long before there was any law here and folks will be hunting long after the law is gone. All in between is just commentary.

The real political agenda for antihunting has nothing to do with game. Its about the creating criminals industry so they can get unworked for (un-earned) money in the form of fines and enforcement grants. Its part of an industry. Believe me.

creating criminals industry.......hmmmm.
Never thought of it that way.
Makes sense.

Will the government give ya sizable grants if your good at creating criminals?

Stupid question.
I'm sure they will.

They have plenty of Pitman/Robertson funding excesses to distribute for any and all anti-hunting, anti-firearm, anti-human organized endeavors no doubt.

I'm sure there are plenty of those out there now taking full advantage.