Stump jumper
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i like that james. should start a post on jetski guys that we almost ran over. :lol:JAMES said:
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Kill Switch and Lanyard
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Swampsaver
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DOI has a good idea. I have seen or been in situations where the operator was tossed from the boat or a throttle became jammed and a kill switch would have helped out a lot. It needs to be tied into the fuel pump and ignition to ensure the engine stops. Some boats have aircraft engines with a mechanical fuel pump and will continue to run on mags even with no power. It only stops when the mags are grounded out. (am I right on that term?).
SS
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You are 100% right. In the case of an aircraft engine the key needs to open the mag ground lead, when you pull it out the contacts then ground the mag.
There is also a fuel shutoff in the mixture control on the carb which "could" be activated by a solenoid when the key is removed.
Lot of work in setting this up, but it "could" be done.
There is also a fuel shutoff in the mixture control on the carb which "could" be activated by a solenoid when the key is removed.
Lot of work in setting this up, but it "could" be done.
bayouthunder
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saw this late after the comments had run dry but i thought my 2 cents worthy of saying, their value being what y'all pay for them.
there are a thousand different scenarios able to be played out when an airboat operator is ejected from his seat, none are able to be monday quarterbacked worth considering because if you ain't there you don't have a clue what happened, or why, and the only way it could be avoided is by staying home and not getting in your boat. airboating is dangerous sport, sitting 3 feet from a 7 foot potato chopper spinning over 1000 rpms is not like sitting on the couch watching a reality show on tv. we could all argue pros and cons about a kill switch till we yawned but, here is the bottom line. do not, i repeat do not allow the government their 2 cents on the issue. fight tooth and nail for the right to determine for yourself what makes you safe in your airboat, not some federal or state swish who believes one size fits all is the answer to everything because they work for the government and they know what is best for you. they don't and never will. if you think a kill switch should be there, then put it on. if you think it shouldn't, then keep it off. but if the government wants to stick its ugly head into it, then chop it off (figuratively speaking of course). if you don't the day will come when they will be telling you airboats are to dangerous to operate and for your own good we have to take them away from you. if you don't think this to be true, then consider the circumstances with our rights as americans to own a gun, under assault at every turn.
bayouthunder has spoken
there are a thousand different scenarios able to be played out when an airboat operator is ejected from his seat, none are able to be monday quarterbacked worth considering because if you ain't there you don't have a clue what happened, or why, and the only way it could be avoided is by staying home and not getting in your boat. airboating is dangerous sport, sitting 3 feet from a 7 foot potato chopper spinning over 1000 rpms is not like sitting on the couch watching a reality show on tv. we could all argue pros and cons about a kill switch till we yawned but, here is the bottom line. do not, i repeat do not allow the government their 2 cents on the issue. fight tooth and nail for the right to determine for yourself what makes you safe in your airboat, not some federal or state swish who believes one size fits all is the answer to everything because they work for the government and they know what is best for you. they don't and never will. if you think a kill switch should be there, then put it on. if you think it shouldn't, then keep it off. but if the government wants to stick its ugly head into it, then chop it off (figuratively speaking of course). if you don't the day will come when they will be telling you airboats are to dangerous to operate and for your own good we have to take them away from you. if you don't think this to be true, then consider the circumstances with our rights as americans to own a gun, under assault at every turn.
bayouthunder has spoken
OnCourseMarineSafety
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Very well spoken my friend I could not of said it better myself.
Rich Andrews
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Sorry,but I don't buy the or subscribe to the kill switch.....I own an airboat and flats both BOTH equiped with a lanyard. I absolutely use it on my flats boat especially when I'm running alone.
On my airboat last thing I want is to have my airboat shut down,and jeopardize my passengers should I be thrown,you see my flats boat will stay afloat no matter what......period. My airboat can sink,or roll over should power be killed without me being in the seat.
It does no good on dry ground to have a kill lanyard.......and I keep an eye on my return springs. THose pesky coiled up lanyard strings somehow seem to get caught up on things never imagined.....can't tell you how many times it's been coiled up in my steering wheel on my flats boat.
Never seen or heard a boat get stuck WOT,and not seen a driver not be able to pull back on her......but i'm sure its happened
On my airboat last thing I want is to have my airboat shut down,and jeopardize my passengers should I be thrown,you see my flats boat will stay afloat no matter what......period. My airboat can sink,or roll over should power be killed without me being in the seat.
It does no good on dry ground to have a kill lanyard.......and I keep an eye on my return springs. THose pesky coiled up lanyard strings somehow seem to get caught up on things never imagined.....can't tell you how many times it's been coiled up in my steering wheel on my flats boat.
Never seen or heard a boat get stuck WOT,and not seen a driver not be able to pull back on her......but i'm sure its happened
SafetyFirst
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bayouthunder: The US Government is not even trying to legislate any safety controls for Airboats. DOI has already suffered multiple deaths due to a power boat accident back in the early 1990's and they are simply mandating to their employees a "safer" way to operate Airboats with the "kill switch" policy. If it does prevent a fatality, then DOI has done their job. Powerboats are the same way. Fall from a powerboat and you are likely to get hit by the motor as it turns under torque (and they DO). DOI sure does not want that to happen either. We are just trying everything we can do to prevent a fatality. PS: So far...it has worked! The State of New York has a mandatory PFD Law in effect (only for hypothermic conditions), but I can tell you that when the winter months statistics come in, they WILL see a dramatic reduction in deaths that result from this law. I suspect it won't be long before other states join in and save lives...I can't argue with that either. Safety is important, no matter what type of "craft" you operate.
terrible ted
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No boat before 2020 cool
terrible ted
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yep, so keep your old boat guys. You don't need a seat belt, a helmet or a kill switch. Do you need a safety harness to take a shower. Some people are Just PW'ed to afraid to cut the label of their pillows.
SWAMPHUNTER45
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Ted with the word of USCG mandating level flotation in 2024 I’m gonna build a few and stack them in the yard for the tots !
Stand by for a build !
Stand by for a build !
Slidin Gator
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Another reason I got 2 grandfathered hulls in my name, a 3rd in my son's. I've heard with a steady supply of new metal the riveted hard metal hulls can last generations; I know the VIN numbers can 🤔.
In the event of a broken throttle spring, engine at WOT, sure you can yank it by hand, but the cord is likely to be wrapped up in stuff. The best plan is a switch panel with toggles you can hit everything in a quick motion, all down and off (like the Karate chop on my stbd switch panel). Even if the lanyard is not tangled up, it's not gonna do the job it was intended to do until the boat hits a solid object
I can do one better, one of my buddies ended up face down in wet mud with boat on top. His buddies acted quick to blow the boat off, peel him up and slap him back to life. Imagine having to emergency restart a hot engine, after coming up with a backup kill switch key to do the same?
For anyone with a new kill switch mandated hull, make note that there are wireless kill switch solutions available on the market that are USCG approved. They eliminate the wires.
On my offshore boat (call me selfish) but my main concern with the kill switch was I was taking the key over the side with me, how do the rest of the folks onboard refire and come get me? My solution to this on all boats was to include spare kill switch keys on the engine key chain. But still, in the gulf stream that boat can get blown a long way away before a passenger sorts out a restart. On my old long tail mudboat the kill switch lanyard was religious, I kept it on my wrist cause that motor spent every running second trying to throw me outa the boat.
terrible ted
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on my bay, kill switch has nothing to do with key just a toggle for power.