LETS UNITE GUYS AND STAND UP AND BE HEARD IN 08 !!

[D-BREWSTER]

GUYS BIG GOBBLER AND BISHOP AND THE KRVSA AND FAA AND LOTS OF OTHER FOLKS AND CLUBS ARE ABOUT TO START THE FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS AGAIN IN 08 , LETS GET BEHIND THEM AND HELP OUT AND DO OUR PARTS !! ITS TIME TO COME OUT OF OUR POCKETS AND MAKE TIME TO BE HEARD IF WERE GONNA SAVE OUR HERITAGE AND THAT OF ARE KIDS.. THERE IS A TOPIC IN CLUB TALK WHERE THEY WANT OUR INPUT AND THE QUESTIONS WE WANT ANSWERD , SO NOWS THE TIME TO SPEAK UP OR DONT CRY LATER !!!

HERES MY QUESTIONS AND THOSE I HUNT WITH

We have other issues not really related to Airboating is called The Division of State Lands; Primary responsibility for the Florida Forever land acquisition program, the world's largest conservation land buying program - collectively, the State of Florida has protected over 535,643 acres of land with $1.8 billion in Florida Forever funds through December 2006.



HEY BISHOP WHATS THE WORD ON TRADITIONAL USE OF AIRBOATS AND BUGGYS ON THESE LANDS ESPECIALLY THE NEWLY REQUIRED OR LANDS ON THE DOCKET TO BE PURCHASED ? HAS ANYONE HEARD ANYTHING ON THAT FOR THIS NEW YEAR ?


ALSO GUYS IF YOU CAN I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE SOME INFO ON SOME RUMORS AND QUESTIONS ON THE MINDS OF LOTS OF LOCAL SPORTSMAN IF YOU COULD HELP ANSWER..

1.IS THERE GONNA BE A DOE WEEK IN 08 FOR THE KISSIMMEE CHAIN OF LAKES AND THE RIVER THIS YEAR ?

2.ARE YOU STILL GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO DOGHUNT FOR DEER AND HOGS ON THE KISSIMMEE CHAIN OF LAKES AND RIVER IN 08 ?

3.AND CAN YOU STILL DOGHUNT HOGS YEAR ROUND ON LAKE KISSIMMEE AND LAKE CYPRESS ?

4. ARE ANY OF THE CLUBS OR OUR SPEAKERS GOING TO ADDRESS THE FWC ON THERE PLAINTENT HARASSMENT OF AIRBOATERS THIS YEAR ON THE KISSIMMEE CHAIN OF LAKES AND RIVERS ? ITS TIME WE GET IT IN BLACK WRITING WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED AND NOT ALLOWED TO DO .. I UNDERSTAND THE DAYS OF RUNNING AND GUNNING ARE OVER , THATS FINE BUT GARDNERS MARSH AND THE EASEMENTS AROUND THE LAKES ARE NOT MANAGEMENT AREAS AND DO NOT HAVE A NUMBERD TRAIL SYSTEM SO HOW CAN THEY GIVE US THESE RIDICULAS TICKETS FOR BEING OFF THE TRAIL OR RUNNING THE BUSH. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST WHAT IS THE LAW ON FIREARMS ON YOUR BOAT ? DO THEY HAVE TO BE IN YOUR SCABBARD AND UN-LOADED WHILE RIDING ?

GUYS I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE ANY INFO ON THESE QUESTIONS .. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR HELP AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS AND FIGHT !!!

 

[AirRanger]

As I recall I received a monthly KRVSA letter a while back that stated there would be NO doe week next year on Kissimmee. I think it was a done deal. At least that's how I interpreted the letter. Any one who has that letter still, please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Rich Andrews]

probably so, no this, no that, no guns, no fishing, no trapping, no alcohol, no fun, no things you used to enjoy...no more anything.

KEEP your ass at home Floridian and read about what it used to be....hell, no complaining, you may get a ticket on the internet for that someday.

If our sorry ass state has its' way well be fishing with no hooks, and shooting with blanks....just don't wake ole Herb up, he needs his beauty rest.
And for those DEER, well we will just leave them alone until they get CWD, and then we will let all the private land owners kill em off, then you can make a new condo develpment since no game is on the land anymore....

Wonder how the state will deal with our HOG epidemic when it starts becoming a problem to Herbs yard!!

Lets' just make more STA's around the state so we can control where and how many ducks can be shot from our mismanaged State of Florida.......no hunting m thru s, no power boats, in by this time, out by this time..get a permit,..BS

Next thing you know, some tree hugger will have you buying a quota permit for how many times you can take a poop in the woods.......going to bed

 

[plumcrazy]

yea your right ranger but it beats what they wanted to do, thanks krvsa

 

[Daddy Dave]

No rules for anything yet on KCOL for 2008. KRVSA / FAA blocked the proposal at the final KCOL Dispute Resolution Committee meeting. Our heroes in this one said...NO!!! Open your wallet first, then keep your ears and eyes open.

 

[John C]

Keep us posted on this one. Let us know what we can do to help the fight in 08.

 

[Big Gobbler]

AIRRANGER
PLEASE LET ME TRY AND CLEAR UP THE AIR ABOUT DOE WEEK.
SEVERAL OF US HUNTERS SAT ON THE KISS CHAIN OF LAKES DISPUTE RESULUTION COMMITTEE. THERE WERE FOUR HUNTERS AGAINST ALL OF THE TREE AND BUNNY HUGGERS. (POLK SIERRA CLUB, AUDOBON OF FLORIDA, THE NATURE CONSERVANCY,DEP MAN FROM LAKE KISS STATE PARK,SFWMD, THREE LAND OWNERS, DIV OF FORESTRY, ECT.ECT.ECT. THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 18 PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE.
AT THE FIRST MEETING THE FACILATOR (CHRIS PETERSON) AND THE COMMITTEE WROTE UP A MISSION STATEMENT AND WE AS A GROUP VOTED TO FOLLOW THE MISSION STATEMENT.
AT EITHER THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETING THE COMMITTEE VOTED UNAMIOUSLY TO STOP THE DOE KILLING ON THE KCOL. NO DOES NO FAWNS, SAME AS NO COWS NO CALVES.
AT THE THIRD MEETING IN WALKS FWC PERSONELL ALONG WITH SFWMD PERSONELL. THEY HAD WHAT THEY CALLED A STRAWMAN PROPOSAL WITH ALL KINDS OF RULES AND REGULATION THAT THEY HAD COME UP WITH FOR THE KCOL.
WE HUNTERS ON THE COMMITTEE DIDN'T LIKE THIS CHANGE OF RULES MID STREAM BUT WE WERE FORCE FEED THE STRAWMAN PROPOSAL.
AFTER 6 (SIX) ALL DAY MEETINGS WE WERE REQUIRED TO VOTE ON THE WHOLE PROPOSAL AS A PACKAGE DEAL, EITHER VOTE FOR THE WHOLE PACKAGE OR VOTE FOR NONE OF IT.
THE VOTE WAS THREE (3) COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR IT, TEN(10) COMMITTEE MEMBERS AGAINST IT, AND FOUR (4) PEOPLE ABSTAINED FROM VOTING WHICH THE FACILATOR SAYS COUNTS AS A NO VOTE. SO THE TOTAL WOULD BE 3 FOR 14 AGAINST WITH ONE PERSON ABSENT.
THE LAST MEETING WAS ON OCT. 29TH I FLEW BACK A DAY EARLY FROM A PHEASANT HUNTING TRIP IN MINNISOTA FOR THIS MEETING AT THE REQUEST OF ONE OF THE FACILATORS (RAFAEL MONTALVO) WHO DROVE TO MY HOUSE AND REQUESTED FOR ME TO BE THERE STATING THAT I HAD MORE KNOWLEDGE OF THE KCOL THAN ANYBODY ELSE ON THE COMMITTEE.
THE FACILATOR JUST E-MAILED US THE FINAL DRAFT TODAY JAN 17, 2008. THE FACILATORS WERE PAID 50,000 DOLLARS OF THE TAX PAYERS MONEY TO RUN THESE 6 MEETINGS THEN IT TOOK THEM FOUR MONTHS TO WRITE UP THE FINAL DRAFT.
NOW YOU ALSO NEED TO INCLUDE IN THE COST OF THIS THE MEETING ROOM AT RIVER RANCH,
HELICOPTER RIDES FOR ALL OF THE 18 MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
THREE SFWMD EMPLOYES, THEIR SALARIES AND THEIR GAS FROM WPB.
TWO SFWMD EMPLOYES, THEIR SALARIES AND THEIR GAS FROM ORLANDO.
ONE FWC MAN PLUS SALARY AND GAS ON THE COMMITTEE
TWO FWC MEN PLUS SALARY AND GAS IN THE AUDIENCE
ONE DEP MAN PLUS SALARY AND GAS ON THE COMMITTEE
ONE WOMAN FROM OSCEOLA COUNTY PLUS SALARY AND GAS
ONE MAN FROM POLK COUNTY PLUS SALARY AND GAS
ONE MAN FROM DIV OF FORESTRY PLUS SALARY AND GAS FROM TALL.
ALL OF THIS TIMES SIX MEETINGS.
SO A CLOSE GUESS OF TAXPAYERS MONEYS SPENT ON THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE BETWEEN 70,000 AND 80,000 DOLLARS, AND WHAT DID WE GAIN.
ABSOUTELY NOTHING
YES I DID REPORT IN THE KRVSA CLUB'S NEWSLETTER THAT THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE A DOE WEEK IN 2008 AND I SHOULD OF REMEMBERED TO RETRACT THAT STATEMENT SIX MONTHS LATER WHEN THE RECOMENDATIONS FROM THE KCOL WERE VOTED DOWN BUT HELL MAN I WAS SO GLAD THAT IT WAS VOTED DOWN I GUESS THAT I HAD I MEMORY LAPSE MUST OF BEEN THE (104) MEETINGS AND EVENTS THAT I WENT TO IN 2007 TRYING TO PROTECT OUR AIRBOATING HERITAGE AND ENVIRONMENT.
I TRY AND DO BETTER IN 2008.
NOW THEN LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET A LITTLE BIT OF HELP FROM THE REST OF YOU AIRBOATERS.
ON FEB. 21, 2008 THERE IS GOING TO BE A MEETING AT RIVER RANCH OF THE WRAC-REC. AT 5PM. WRAC-REC STANDS FOR WATER RESOURCES ADVISORY COMMITTEE-RECREATION.
THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE KISSIMMEE CHAIN OF LAKES DISPUTE RESOLUTION GROUP WILL BE PRESENTED AT THIS MEETING.
YES I KNOW THAT THIS IS ON A THURSDAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK AT AN IMPOSSIBLE TIME FOR THE WORKING MAN TO BE THERE, BUT WHY DO YOU THINK THAT THEY SCHEDULE IT AT THIS TIME???????????? DUD.
THEY NORMALLY HAVE THESE MEETINGS IN WPB BUT AFTER I COMPLAINED ABOUT THE FRUITILITY OF HAVING A MEETING IN WPB ABOUT LAKE KISSIMMEE THEY AGREEDED TO MOVE IT TO THE RIVER RANCH FACILITY. THIS WILL MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LOVE TO RIDE THE KISS CHAIN OF LAKES TO ATTEND. YES YOU MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE A 1/2 DAY OFF OF WORK BUT WE NEED TO SHOW THE SFWMD THAT WE ARE SERIOUS WHEN WE TELL THEM THAT WE DON'T WANT TO EVER HAVE ANOTHER ANOTHER KCOL DISPUTE RESOLUTION COMMITTEE AGAIN EXPECIALLY PAYED FOR WITH OUR TAXPAYERS MONEYS. SO I RESPECTIVELY ASK FOR ALL OF YOU AIRBOATERS AND HUNTERS TO PUT FEB 21, 2008 ON YOUR CALENDAR TO BE AT RIVER RANCH TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AT 5-PM SHARP AND BE SURE TO BE ON YOUR BEST BEHAVIOR, AND TRUST ME EVERY PERSON AT THIS MEETING HELPS OUR CAUSE TO FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS AND PROTECT OUR HERITAGE
THANKS
BIG GOBBLER
KRVSA.

P.S. RICK SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I START TYPING. AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE FEB. 21ST DATE WE NEED TO BUMP THIS UP PLEASE.