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NEED HELP WITH MOTOR STORAGE...
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dblj006
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http://www.sacskyranch.com/cgi-bin/...amento_Sky_Ranch_Preserve_42.html#a1471#a1471
I'm sure there are other methods of storage but take a look at the dehydrator plugs. Definitely use something.
I'm sure there are other methods of storage but take a look at the dehydrator plugs. Definitely use something.
Rich Andrews
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Duckluva,
I can help out by running gas through it for the next couple of years......on a new engine stand!!!! What are friends for.
I can help out by running gas through it for the next couple of years......on a new engine stand!!!! What are friends for.
Des Moines Boater
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The killer for all aircraft engines is rust. The dehydrator plugs are used to keep moisture out of the cylinders. When the cylinder walls rust they loose the cross hatching and need to be rehoned. If not they smooth out and leak oil past the rings. On Lycomings they have a problem with the cam and cam followers rusting.
I agree with Rich, the best thing is to build an engine stand and run it every week. That is the best way to get oil on all the internal metal parts. Short of that I would pull the cylinders and coat the inside with a thick coat of lithium spray. I would pickle the rest of the engine in a vat of hydraulic fluid.
It couldn't hurt to completely disassemble the engine and do a new rebuild on it just before you are ready to install it.
I agree with Rich, the best thing is to build an engine stand and run it every week. That is the best way to get oil on all the internal metal parts. Short of that I would pull the cylinders and coat the inside with a thick coat of lithium spray. I would pickle the rest of the engine in a vat of hydraulic fluid.
It couldn't hurt to completely disassemble the engine and do a new rebuild on it just before you are ready to install it.
lol, sorry rich, i've got to keep this one at home!!! somebody told me there was an aerosol spray i could spray in the engine that would coat the inside. but i'm not sure. i still have it sitting on the stand without the prop. i guess i could just crank it and warm it up a few times a month. that might be the simplest way....
That said, there are a couple issues there: First is condensation, Lycoming advises against short runs where the oil tempature doesn't heat in excess of 212 degrees. There's a video clip here: http://www.lycoming.textron.com/main.jsp?bodyPage=videos/index.htmlduckluv26":11ta74jh said:
Second is the mental anguish of hearing that beautiful piece of man made powere just sitting there and not applying all that torque to a laminated stick....you'll either sell it, or get buisy building!
We kept a ground power engine for several years in a dry, metal storage shed...whenever I think about it I would roll the engine over several times without sparkplugs in it.
OMC makes some fogging engine preseratives as well as some diffrent chemicals that can be sprayed in the jugs. I suppose if the engine was sealed well enough, you could completely fill it with oil maby something with an anti-moisture properties (Case Tractors "Hy-Tran" has a moisture absorbing additive that works well, and the oil amounts to 10w ATF)
Another possibility would be using an oil heater/block heater, "Zero Start" offers a pertty good line/selection that left installed and plugged in would keep the oil temp and subseguently part of the engine via convection, warm enough to displace or prevent moisture accumulation...at least in theory.
There is an oil available for storage. The dehydrator plugs are a must.
The cylinders need to be fogged and I have tried the OMC marine stuff that works by spraying into the spark plug holes and it did not work in the big bore Lycoming. Maybe if you used two cans and sprayed into both plug holes at once.
The best fogger I have seen was made from a pressure feed paint gun with an extension to reach down into the jug and a nozzle on the end that sprayed in several directions. We used the same storage oil in it.
I would hope that the storage oil would stick to the cam and not let it dry out. That is a long time you are talking about and the cam would worry me. I would pull a jug or two and inspect the cam before starting.
jim
The cylinders need to be fogged and I have tried the OMC marine stuff that works by spraying into the spark plug holes and it did not work in the big bore Lycoming. Maybe if you used two cans and sprayed into both plug holes at once.
The best fogger I have seen was made from a pressure feed paint gun with an extension to reach down into the jug and a nozzle on the end that sprayed in several directions. We used the same storage oil in it.
I would hope that the storage oil would stick to the cam and not let it dry out. That is a long time you are talking about and the cam would worry me. I would pull a jug or two and inspect the cam before starting.
jim
This is just an idea. I've never seen it done, but ..... since the cam on a Lycoming is above the crank, after you fog the cylinders you might pour a quart or so of fresh oil into the engine and then store it upside down, so that the oil would pool around the cam.
I agree with Jim .... starting this engine after a few years would definitely be a dry-start on the cam because they rely on splash lubrication to keep the cam lubed up.
olf
I agree with Jim .... starting this engine after a few years would definitely be a dry-start on the cam because they rely on splash lubrication to keep the cam lubed up.
olf
In the early 80's I purchased a J - 4 Cub as a gift for my father. It came with an extra engine. If I remember correctly the extra engine was a 65 horse continental. It was factory packed in stuff called "Cosmoline" . When I ask what the stuff was and how one would go about removing it they told me it was a rust protectant they used for engines that were to be stored for any lenght of time.
Mike, too bad I'm not on your "gift list" .... :lol:. I love the old Cubs.
Cosmoline is very waxy coating that will protect mechanical things for eons. They were usually coated and then wrapped in a very heavy waxed paper or cloth so that they could be shipped and stored anywhere regardless of conditions.
olf
Cosmoline is very waxy coating that will protect mechanical things for eons. They were usually coated and then wrapped in a very heavy waxed paper or cloth so that they could be shipped and stored anywhere regardless of conditions.
olf