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SBC cams

Swampghost

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I'm not into racing but looking to put together a powerful huntboat, low-end grunt being over WOT speeds.

My thinking is that marine cams should provide nearly, if not exactly, the power curves that are demanded from airboats. If I'm wrong, please point out where.

I'm pretty well known for my marine powerplants being high-HP AND dependable. I built a lot of engines in the '70's and 80's if you get my drift and I'm still alive.
 
Talk to Thunder on this, he has done a lot of work on cam design. I'm more than sure he will steer you in the right direction. JMO
 
The reduction ratios fall into the same parameters and fluids are fliuds. Water just happens to be about 800 times more dense than air.
 
Well I have to be honest here. I've avoided some of your posts for several reasons. Mainly due to wondering if you're here for answers or hoping to spark conversation in order to give them. Now I'm not a degreed ME. I ran a R+D dept in a major engineering company for 6 years, have several pattents under my belt, and have built literally thousands of engines in every shape and form.

And honestly one of my easiest successes was offshore boat racing. Although the torque curve of a pleasurecraft is similar to an airboat, the power of a race boat is nothing like it. So I guess the worm that I had to bite on was your statement about grunt, but also stating your prowess of HP. High HP is much more valid in typical marine applications in my opinion mostly due to fluid dynamics and inertia of the propeller. After all, the most common engine dynamometer is a water brake, and I think you would agree that it does a less than optimum job of simulating actual performance in a vehicle.

I came into this game ~10 years ago with all my formulas and resume of HP/victories. I was met with a decent amount of success mainly because at the time the airboat world was still very crude IMHO. But there have been a LOT of factors I didn't see that nothing but the school of hard knocks has taught me and teaches me everyday, mainly due to the fact that airboat manufacturers and propeller/gearbox manufacturers are developing leaps and bounds at the same pace.

You're obviously a smart guy, but try not to be too much of an engineer. Any calculation is only as good as the data you enter, and when someone who's been runnin airboats for years tells you your calculations didn't work....Listen....At least that's what I do. I try to build a better moustrap, but results are exactly what they are........results. Take it for whatever it's worth.

Felber.

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Ghost, if your marine engines are accustomed to being started with the propeller engaged then it entirely possible that your premise is OK.
If, however, they can be started without a load, as in 'neutral', then you probably need to re-think how similar the requirements really are.

Just a thought. :)

olf
 
I just had to go out and test a bunch of them. The last 6 months alone I have tested over 8 different grinds and four different cam manufactures and the cam that runs by far the best. Was not recommended to me by anybody and to be honest the cam manufacture told me it wouldn't work well! Went from swinging a three Blade Maximus pitched at the 3 mark 5,100RPM's to over 5,600RPM's. I have never seen results like that in ten years of testing cam's. But who knows I'm testing three completely new cam grinds on the dyno the end of this month!
 
FELBER, I'm sorry that I seem this way, it's entirely unintentional. My airboat experience is limited to aircraft powerplants. I want to go boating again but I kinda have to do it on the cheap due to having 2 kids in college and I was downsized just before Christmas.

As said, I have a 350 sitting on the stand that I built for my boat that was blown away. It is a Target block w/ Crusader crankshaft, RPM timing gears to the Mercruiser 350/350 cam, 2.02 heads, Holley Contender manifold and QuadraJet carb with 350/350 guts and Corvette secondary pullover module. Ignition is p&c.

I kept the compression low as I used to go to the Bahamas frequently and fuel was an unknown quality, sometimes water. The p&c ign. is easy and cheap to service when in remote areas. Like yourself, I've learned by trial and error.

I was just going through the posts and was noticing how similar a lot of specs were between airboats and marine. Specifically, the gear ratios is what got me thinking. Then I started in on the powerbands and thinking that they must be pretty close (low end grunt to get on plane or unstuck and high-end performance). That's what led me back to an engine that I already have that's rari'n to go.
 
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