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SFWMD declaration of Shady Oaks Lake Kiss. Prop. as Surplus

Daddy Dave

Well-known member
Mollie G. Palmer, Deputy Chief of Staff
Florida Department of Environmental Protection
3900 Commonwealth Boulevard, MS 50
Tallahassee, Florida 32399
Phone: 850-245-2011 Suncom 205-2011
Fax: 850-245-2021 Suncom 205-2021
For more information about DEP,
please visit http://www.dep.state.fl.us/.


Ms. Palmer,

Kissimmee River Valley Sportsman's Association (KRVSA) President Danny Brantley has asked that I respond to your letter on behalf of our membership.

Thank You for responding to our letter to South Florida Water Management District outlining the concerns of KRVSA regarding the reported planned disposal of the Speight Family Property as "surplus lands" in a sale or trade by SFWMD.

As SFWMD response indicated, during negotiations with the Speight Family, SFWMD recognized the clear benefit of acquiring the entire property - 3,000 acres -- rather than just the amount of land required to meet the new high water mark of Lake Kissimmee -- 800 acres. This is certainly one point that all parties agree to -- this parcel is priceless to current and future generations of Floridians and tourists who seek to recreate on the Kissimmee Chain of Lakes. It represents the only public funds purchased and in-trust-held paved road lakefront property on Lake Kissimmee.

SFWMD purchased the Speight Property with $18,242,000 of tax dollars, working as custodians of the best interests of all of Florida's citizens. Then, SFWMD spent additional tax dollars to clean the property of most signs of The Hand of Man - clearly increasing the property's value and leaving this parcel an absolutely prime development piece without the property cleanup costs and environmental liabilities which are normal and customary with redevelopment.

We understand the importance of restoring the Everglades and many of our members have taken a very active role in those ongoing efforts. We also understand the importance and rapid disappearance of public access to Central Florida's great waterways like the Kissimmee Chain of Lakes.

There are several "alternative" access sites listed in your letter. The only public ramps mentioned are at S-65 Lock and Spillway are not available to the public as a result of lock and spillway construction maintenance work there. These two adjoining access points will most certainly disappear with the inevitable widening of Highway 60 - and these two are often closed to public access as a result of dangerous current flows from S-65 spillway openings. At each of these sites, there are no improvements for public service, convenience or safety. The launch ramps dump directly into the lock's discharge plume, making for very treacherous boating during the many times of discharge each year. There are no docks, lights, rest rooms, telephones, security services or shelters at either of these ramps.

Grape Hammock is a private marina offering discretionary public access. Thomas Landings also offers discretionary public access and is accessible by a historically terrible dirt road and is currently on the market for sale to developers by very willing and motivated ownership. The Kissimmee River State Park operated by DEP, outright discriminates against likely the largest current group of motor vessel users of the area by banning the launching of all private airboats from their facilities.

Overstreet Landings requires a road trip of more than 100 additional travel miles each way for any of the millions of residents located west of Lake Kissimmee to launch as it resides on the northeast corner of Lake Kissimmee and is accessible only from either Kissimmee / St. Cloud or Keenansville.

We simply see this property as a priceless and irreplaceable treasure for current and future generations of Floridians wanting to recreate on the Kissimmee Chain of Lakes. Florida recently recognized the tremendous value of such properties by paying millions of taxpayer dollars to the Lightsey Family for a nonpublic access Conservation Easement on adjacent Brahma Island. Tax dollars put the Speight Property in public trust and tax dollars cleaned it up and added millions of dollars of value to the remaining prime waterfront acres. We believe that investment of public funds could and should be recognized with a public access set aside and conservation easement.

This is a rare opportunity for the citizens of Florida to receive true exceptional value added from their tax payments. We believe it is only fair and equitable that SFWMD make sufficient property available to accommodate this clear public need.

Members of KRVSA pledge their support toward such an end and pledge their willingness to stay actively involved in this issue. We respectfully request all involved parties to find a way to accommodate the current and future needs of public access for water recreation and to assure the continued availability to practice Florida's traditional uses such as motor vessel access, fishing, boating and hunting.

Respectfully Yours,

Capt. Dave Markett
For the Membership
Kissimmee River Valley Sportsman's Association
 
With words like that, how could they not take the suggestion and do what is right?!!?? Well done, Dave.

Would it help if others (us normals) wrote in basically saying "Yeah, what HE said"? Not in those words of course. ;)

matt.
 
Moodfood,

I feel this is an important issue and so I took Cntry's advice, did some research and put an opinion to paper.

Cntry141IQ did it.

Many issues are swayed by outcrys from the public. Have no idea how this one will fall.
 
Big Daddy, a couple of questions if you don't mind and if you have the information. Is it DEP or SWFMD that we need to contact or both? I didn't see any direct email to Ms. Palmer on the web site. By the way, what the heck is a suncom phone number? I stayed in that area a couple of times. Al Ross and Don Kirk had a trailer in Grape Hammock. Along with Don's 4-Moons in 2A it was like having the best of FL airboating and no hotel bill. It just really frustates me that what they took out of there, if they really had to kick everybody out, could have easily been converted to a premier recreation area. Thank you very much for taking the lead on this issue. I see a trend of people starting to get up off their butts and make some noise. That is encouraging. We gotta be fast, it seems many times we hear about something after it is too late. Hopefully our lobbyist will cure a lot of that.
 
Muddyduck - and all the others who have written letters of support for keeping this property public - Thank You !!!

I am not a professional or expert at this type of effort. My original letter went to the Governors and WRAC Director at South Florida Water Management District. As Murphy would have it, the letter hit the day after Wilma.

No responses for weeks - then the attached letter in my post and a call from a woman with the lands division of SFWMD - all just before last week's FFWCC meeting at Key Largo. The phone call was confrontational and the lady seemed upset that Jeb Bush was inquiring through DEP.

Guess we touched a nerve somewhere.

Now, I am told, we need to involve the Polk County BOCC and legislative delegation to get their support for a county maintained park at that location.
 
I see that another thread is growing like wild fire with people getting on board for this issue. I also sent and email to the list that was included. I didn't pick through the list to see if the Polk BOCC was included. Do we need another list to contact them as well? Don't know who on the site is in Polk, but let us know and I'll do all I can.
 
Muddyduck,

Guess I am a little dense, but, I can't find the other thread on this subject you refer to.

Listed below is the response from DEP - make your own conclusions....
And, the list of Polk Commissioners and Legislative delegation. I have been advise that we need to ask for their support.

"Thank you for your follow-up note, Captain Markett.

The agencies that own and manage land around Lake Kissimmee are working together to address public access to the lake for recreation. While they are discussing access to the lake in general, they are aware of the Kissimmee River Valley Sportsman’s Association’s concerns as they relate to Shady Oaks Fish Camp. We hope the outcome of their review will provide an access option that will meet the needs of your association members.

I am copying those in the agencies involved in this review so they will have additional background from your email. They will keep you posted on their discussions.

Mollie "

Here are the names and emails for the important Polk County contacts on this issue:

Senator JD Alexander alexander.jd.web@flsenate.gov

Rep. Marsha Bower marsha.bower@myfloridahouse.gov

Rep. Dennis Ross dennis.ross@myfloridahouse.gov

Rep. Baxter Troutman baxter.troutman@myfloridahouse.gov

Commissioner Bob English bobenglish@polk-county.net

Comm. Randy Wilkenson randywilkenson@polk-county.net

Comm. Jack Myers jackmyers@polk-county.net

Comm. Paul Senft paulsenft@polk-county.net

Comm. Sam Johnson samjohnson@polk-county.net

Polk County Environmental Lands Coordinator - Gaye Sharpe
gayesharpe@polk-county.net
 
Hey ya'll,

Required reading........Please take a minute to read the above. .The "Shady Deal" before attending the September meeting of the KRVSA meeting. This is what SWFMD does to us!

Basketcase
 
Cap'n Dave .... thank you. Your letters are perfecty to the point. If, now, the citizens of Florida receive less than the treatment they deserve we'll know for certain that SFWMD is just a whore trying to run interference between the developers and the common citizen.

It will be good to finally know who the enemy is. We will then know who to go after.

olf
 
Hey ya'll,

From the KRVSA meeting last week, (by the way BPS you woulda won the member drive if you was there)!

The battle for the hunting and access rights on Lake Kissimmee is starting to heat up. Most believe that SWFMD has other "alternatives" planned for our public land. I do too!

Please...if you like to ride Kissimmee, (or even think you'll ride there soon). Help by contributing to the Ralph Hedgecoth Memorial fund. This will secure our lobbyist in Tallahassee which should keep it open for our children and thier children to come.

Basketcase
 
Dave, once again you're the man. Thanks for the heads up. You know how i feel about the KRVSA's interests and values. You always have my and my crews support. Let's Rock... Thanks again Scott.
 
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