After having some modifications done to my gearbox and then re in staling it on my boat and getting the prop all dialed back in and checking my rpm I decided to see what kind of rpm change I would get if I took the Super traps off the tail pipe's I all ready have mufflers on the boat I had in stalled the Super traps to see if I could make the boat even quieter and I have never run my WaterThunder LS6 with out them they came with 12 plates but after seeing I had header leaks from to much back pressure I added 4 more plates to each side which took care of the problem and with that set up I was turning 5500 rpm when I took them off the other day and ran the boat with just mufflers I picked up 400 rpm's so I called WaterThunder and told him this he laughed and said that equates to probably to 75 to 100 hp increase I was shocked and even more shocked when I ran it on the river needless to say I am either going to have to order a lot more plates for the super traps or there not going back on there it does not seem to be any louder but it does have a little deeper sound at idle man that small block moves some air