Hairline crack in hub

Airboat propeller discussion.
Capt steve
Southern Airboat Member
Posts: 39
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:36 pm
Location: Central Florida

Hairline crack in hub

Postby Capt steve » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:17 pm

Hi guys. Capt steve here with another question. I hope I don’t get jumped on again but here goes :)

Inspecting one of our boats this morning and found a hairline crack in the hub. The boat is turning a three blade sensinech prop. I’m sure it’s not good even though it just looks like a small stress crack. Gonna pull another boat out til I know how bad it is.

Thanks for opinions
Attachments
38F5BD48-BA42-4F72-8A86-2E9D66BB92C8.jpeg
233989E8-E235-4D84-9A77-721D2161B27A.png
100 ton master captain
Professional airboat operator
I made enough money to buy Miami,
But I pi$$ed it away so fast

Scarecrow
Site Supporter - II
Site Supporter - II
Posts: 1269
Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:01 pm
Location: west palm beach to sebring

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby Scarecrow » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:53 pm

I don't think I would run it, especially with it being a tour boat.

ladyblackwater
Southern Airboat Member
Posts: 173
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:01 pm
Location: Davie, FL
Contact:

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby ladyblackwater » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:06 pm

I 100% would not run that even if it was just a recreational boat but it would make it that much worse being on a tour boat. If that breaks you can have a huge disaster on your hands. You have a great chance of the blade flying off.
Greater love hath no man, than to lay his life down for a friend.

Bitterly clinging to my guns and my religion!

I am that conservative republican your momma warned you about!

Scarecrow
Site Supporter - II
Site Supporter - II
Posts: 1269
Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:01 pm
Location: west palm beach to sebring

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby Scarecrow » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:14 pm

I was just being nice. LOL

User avatar
skinnypockets
Site Supporter - IV
Site Supporter - IV
Posts: 923
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:12 am
Location: St Cloud, Fl

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby skinnypockets » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:36 pm

Capt steve, Good to see you're on top of your pre-flight inspections. I would be comfortable riding with you anytime! :thumbleft:

:rebel: :florida: :old_glory:
I'VE DONE SO MUCH WITH SO LITTLE FOR SO LONG, I CAN DO ANYTHING WITH NOTHING!

13.6 Alumitec, 350 Chevy, Rotator Gearbox and 6 Blade Warp Drive

SWAMPHUNTER45
Site Supporter - III
Site Supporter - III
Posts: 2158
Joined: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:38 am
Location: Naturecoast, Florida

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby SWAMPHUNTER45 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:57 pm

Send it back to Sensenich for them to inspect

Capt steve
Southern Airboat Member
Posts: 39
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:36 pm
Location: Central Florida

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby Capt steve » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:59 pm

Thanks skinny!!!! I took the boat offline this AM. Any idea what causes this? I assume the hub is milled from a solid piece of aluminum. Is the issue that a big chunck of aluminum can fly off and free the blade? That sounds very ugly. Thanks for helping!

I always err on the side off caution when it comes to safety. I had a bad feeling this wasn’t good. Is this a common failure?
Last edited by Capt steve on Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
100 ton master captain
Professional airboat operator
I made enough money to buy Miami,
But I pi$$ed it away so fast

Capt steve
Southern Airboat Member
Posts: 39
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:36 pm
Location: Central Florida

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby Capt steve » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:21 pm

SWAMPHUNTER45 wrote:Send it back to Sensenich for them to inspect

Thanks. Was planning on reaching out to them first thing in the AM. Silly question but doess sensenich manufacture the hub as well as the blades?
100 ton master captain
Professional airboat operator
I made enough money to buy Miami,
But I pi$$ed it away so fast

SWAMPHUNTER45
Site Supporter - III
Site Supporter - III
Posts: 2158
Joined: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:38 am
Location: Naturecoast, Florida

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby SWAMPHUNTER45 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:15 pm

They do, it should be branded, but I am not sure if it is outsourced or CNC in house.
All the hubs I have gotten from them had the name embossed on outer clam shell.

Either way it is their product and quality control is very important to them.

Capt steve
Southern Airboat Member
Posts: 39
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:36 pm
Location: Central Florida

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby Capt steve » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:45 pm

I can’t thank all of you guys enough. I’m kinda thrown into this situation and am educating myself as fast as I can. This board is a big help as far as learning. Please don’t misunderstand and I’m not comparing myself to you guys that have been doin this a long time, but I can drive these boats. I run a very set coarse and don’t stunt around doing 180’s. I don’t need to do that to satisfy my costumers. They mainly wanna see wildlife and I just need to tingle there toes with a nice turn now and then. I get a little better everyday. I also don’t drive small boats, which from what I’ve learned swamp much easier then the ones I’m driving. Rest assured my passengers safety is always my number one concern!
100 ton master captain
Professional airboat operator
I made enough money to buy Miami,
But I pi$$ed it away so fast

ladyblackwater
Southern Airboat Member
Posts: 173
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:01 pm
Location: Davie, FL
Contact:

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby ladyblackwater » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:10 pm

Capt Steve you are doing everything right. If all Capt.'s were like you there would be a lot less mishaps on the water. My question for you, is this prop on the same boat you had a belt box problem with?
Greater love hath no man, than to lay his life down for a friend.

Bitterly clinging to my guns and my religion!

I am that conservative republican your momma warned you about!

Capt steve
Southern Airboat Member
Posts: 39
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:36 pm
Location: Central Florida

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby Capt steve » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:18 pm

ladyblackwater wrote:Capt Steve you are doing everything right. If all Capt.'s were like you there would be a lot less mishaps on the water. My question for you, is this prop on the same boat you had a belt box problem with?


As a matter of fact yes. Do you think that the slight wobble due to the bearings could have caused a stress crack? Or am I reaching?

And thanks for your encouraging words!
100 ton master captain
Professional airboat operator
I made enough money to buy Miami,
But I pi$$ed it away so fast

ladyblackwater
Southern Airboat Member
Posts: 173
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:01 pm
Location: Davie, FL
Contact:

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby ladyblackwater » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:14 am

Capt Steve my opinion and my experience tells me they both went hand in hand. The old belt box was most likely sending harmonics into the hub and blade causing the crack. This is definitely why I asked if it was the blade off that gear box. I'm going to look for pictures I took of a boat I had to pull back in after they had a catastrophic failure of the belt box and blades.
Last edited by ladyblackwater on Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:51 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Greater love hath no man, than to lay his life down for a friend.

Bitterly clinging to my guns and my religion!

I am that conservative republican your momma warned you about!

SWAMPHUNTER45
Site Supporter - III
Site Supporter - III
Posts: 2158
Joined: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:38 am
Location: Naturecoast, Florida

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby SWAMPHUNTER45 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:40 am

BOOM there you go!

Had a buddy wipe a BBC (mains) out a few months back and bad bearings in a belt drive were the leading suspected cause.
Gonna call him this morning and tell him to go over the hub and blade yoke with a magnifier looking for hairline defects.

You have to learn your drive lines feel and when you pick up anything unusual start looking for the reason. We won't always find the root cause but being attentive is the best prevention.

Capt steve
Southern Airboat Member
Posts: 39
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:36 pm
Location: Central Florida

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby Capt steve » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:42 am

SWAMPHUNTER45 wrote:BOOM there you go!

Had a buddy wipe a BBC (mains) out a few months back and bad bearings in a belt drive were the leading suspected cause.
Gonna call him this morning and tell him to go over the hub and blade yoke with a magnifier looking for hairline defects.

You have to learn your drive lines feel and when you pick up anything unusual start looking for the reason. We won't always find the root cause but being attentive is the best prevention.


Great discussion. With all the help I’ve received from you guys I hope that this helps someone else as well.
100 ton master captain
Professional airboat operator
I made enough money to buy Miami,
But I pi$$ed it away so fast

ladyblackwater
Southern Airboat Member
Posts: 173
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:01 pm
Location: Davie, FL
Contact:

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby ladyblackwater » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:04 pm

I looked but couldn't find the pictures I took of the boat. The boat had passengers on it when it came apart but thankfully no one was hurt. The damaged it caused was about $15,000-$20,000. We still never found one of the blades or the bottom gear of the belt box. It ripped the whole back of the motor off with the belt box. You could see inside the motor from the back. It destroy everything from front of cage to rudders. The only thing that was reusable other than the seat package was the hull. I've seen this happen more than once personally with my own eyes. One thing I can never stress enough is the minute something feels different or sounds different you need to find out what it is. When you are on the boat day in and day out you know the second something isn't right. Doing this has saved my butt from some very bad things happening. The other thing is to never second goes your instincts because it will bite you in the butt.
Greater love hath no man, than to lay his life down for a friend.

Bitterly clinging to my guns and my religion!

I am that conservative republican your momma warned you about!

Capt steve
Southern Airboat Member
Posts: 39
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:36 pm
Location: Central Florida

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby Capt steve » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:34 pm

Replaced the hub/yoke. Boat back online. Thanks for everyone’s help!
100 ton master captain
Professional airboat operator
I made enough money to buy Miami,
But I pi$$ed it away so fast

ladyblackwater
Southern Airboat Member
Posts: 173
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:01 pm
Location: Davie, FL
Contact:

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby ladyblackwater » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:38 pm

Great News Capt Steve. Be safe out there.
Greater love hath no man, than to lay his life down for a friend.

Bitterly clinging to my guns and my religion!

I am that conservative republican your momma warned you about!

SWAMPHUNTER45
Site Supporter - III
Site Supporter - III
Posts: 2158
Joined: Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:38 am
Location: Naturecoast, Florida

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby SWAMPHUNTER45 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:14 am

That's was the best way to proceed.

Capt steve
Southern Airboat Member
Posts: 39
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:36 pm
Location: Central Florida

Re: Hairline crack in hub

Postby Capt steve » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:28 am

Thanks again guys!
100 ton master captain
Professional airboat operator
I made enough money to buy Miami,
But I pi$$ed it away so fast


Return to “Prop Talk”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest