What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by gso480jr » Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:09 pm

P.Vento wrote:Lift the riggin out weld the unused holes shut and carefully re- use the existing holes till you can buy a new hull with a fresh flat bottom, just saying...
I'm sorry, not to be a d=ck but that is not the answer. Stinger holes don't jump around on the hull straight bottom or not. Problem is in the rigging.

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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by gso480jr » Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:11 pm

don't think the original holes will work now.

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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by P.Vento » Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:54 pm

Just suggestion to the immediate problem, obviously it was not installed correctly, somebody didn't feel like fighting the riggin back in place and just drilled new holes not saying it's rite but at least he could stop it from wallering out the holes, but I get what your saying

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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by ptillman » Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:03 pm

I know where you are coming from Diggin. I have had my fair share of issues with my new boat as well. I started a rant on here and had it removed when I came to my senses. I have talked back and forth with my builder alot and still ended up making a lot of the corrections myself. It was just easier to fix it myself to my likings, than to keep making those 350 mile trips. I paid good money for mine as well, and do not feel that I got anywhere close to what I paid for. But I am happy so far, just alot of extra work on my part. I will say though, they did try to make it right. It just at that point I waqs done with it. Good luck Diggin.... I feel ya!! :)
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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by todd glover » Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:08 pm

My boy fenner offered to fix that toad if you don't work the reggin out of her I would call john he is a pretty fart smeller jmo

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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by digginfool » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:59 am

I started to dismiss that statement but decided to put the tape to it anyway. The results? 13-1/8" on the port side, 13-7/16" on the starboard side. The 1/4" is still there.
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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by JAMES » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:28 am

ptillman wrote:I know where you are coming from Diggin. I have had my fair share of issues with my new boat as well. I started a rant on here and had it removed when I came to my senses. I have talked back and forth with my builder alot and still ended up making a lot of the corrections myself. It was just easier to fix it myself to my likings, than to keep making those 350 mile trips. I paid good money for mine as well, and do not feel that I got anywhere close to what I paid for. But I am happy so far, just alot of extra work on my part. I will say though, they did try to make it right. It just at that point I waqs done with it. Good luck Diggin.... I feel ya!! :)
PAUL I AGREE AS NICE AS U BEEN AND A STAND UP GUY AS U ARE U PLAIN AND SIMPLE GOT FK'ED THEY DID A SHITTY JOB ALL THE WAY AROUND NO BUILDER SHOULD OF EVEN LET THAT HULL LEAVE MUCH LESS EVEN OBAMA SOMETHING SO BAD WITH THEIR NAME ON THE LINE I WOULDENT OF ACCEPTED IT EITHER SHOULD U HAVE THE NICE GUY U HAVE BEEN IS LINE ONE A MILLION I GUESS THAT HULL SHOULD OF BEEN SHOVED UP SOMEONE AZZ PERIOD ...I WOULD EXPECT SHYT LIKE THAT FROM SOMEONE WHO NEVER BUILT A HULL THEN AGAIN IM NO SO SURE OF THAT THEIRS HE'S THE ONE WHOS GONNA HAVE A BAD NAME OVER TIME BEACUSE OF THE BS HE PULLS GOOD PEOPLE GREAT PRODUCTS WHEN THEIR RIGHT COULD BE A REAL SUCCESSFUL COMPANY IF RAN RIGHT ...I NO THEIR READING THIS I DONT CARE ITS THE TRUTH I LIKE THEM AS I SAID GOOD PEOPLE BUT THE CRAFTSMANSHIP IS REALLY GOING DOWN HILL WORD OF MOUTH GOES A LONG WAYS AT LEAST IN MY BUSINESS .... AND IM SURE IN THERIS .."TIGHTEN UP BOYZ"
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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by Sniper » Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:17 pm

I hate to read all this and it is a shame this was not handled with out doing this post, what I will say is there is not a more reputable Airboat company on the planet than Diamondback, Bobby and Fran are like family to me and they have done nothing but supported me and my Search & Rescue efforts with first class boats and support
and not only me but the Airboating community years ago when we did the rebuild project for Bud Marquise diamondback jumped right in and redid the whole boat less the engine to where it was better than new and did not charge one dime nor did they want any recognition for it and when I went to New Orleans for the Katrina rescue and destroyed the poly on the bottom of my boat they redid it like new and had me ready to return to service in three day's and only charged me for the materials and I was not the only rescue boat they did that for, I could be on here all day and tell you all the nice things they have done for people over the years and never asked for one thing in return, so next time your not happy with something give them a chance to work it out with you before blast there fine reputation on this web site 9 time out of 10 its not something they did wrong but they are such good people they will fix it anyway
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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by FLA BOY » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:23 pm

I had a DB riveted deckover and had no issues. My dad has had a DB for 6 years and has had no issues. if they do stand behind their reputation and work why have they not went and got the boat to make it right? Just curious.
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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by aherr520 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:49 pm

Sorry to hear your having this problem with them they are good people, I think you should add some hull jack's and tune the hull the way you want it. When I bought my DB hull that's what I had to do, I'm sure your not happy but I think you can make your hull run better then it is. thats my 2 cents
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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by aherr520 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:52 pm

Also if you can get that thing running right by the end of the month I need someone to ride with when I go down there, I never ride alone it's just to lonely LOL
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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by jopete » Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:56 pm

it it were mine i'd be worried it would get 'stolen'.

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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by digginfool » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:07 pm

jopete wrote:it it were mine i'd be worried it would get 'stolen'.
That's funny right! :lol:
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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by Hog Guts » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:09 pm

I'll agree with everyone so in safe :). But I'll add another two cents to the pot. I don't think you should hold against any vendor how far you chose to drive to do business with them. I agree it makes the circumstances more painful for you but that was your choice taking it there. They should not be expected to do any more for you than someone 5 minutes down the road. That's awesome they met you half way even once. Good luck rectifying your problem.


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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by JAMES » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:15 pm

Under standing diamond back has so many supporters THEY BROUGHT THEIR OWN NAME INTO THIS AN NONE OF DB FANS HAVE KNOLDGED THAT SOMEONE FKED UP AND SET THE RINGGING IN A DIFFERENT PLACE YES HE SOULD OF CALLED BOBBY BUT THIS IS A LIVE AND LEARN FORM STUFF LIKE THIS SHOULD BE ALLOWED FOR THE NEXT MAN TO READ THEN CHECK THEIR BOATS SO MISTAKES LIKE THIS POST DONT HAPPEN AGAIN JMO
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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by digginfool » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:22 am

Just as I said I would, I'm going to offer my apology to Bobby, to the extent that after following his advice that he gave me on the phone, I've managed to tame the ride on my boat. Still have some more adjusting to do but with the application of a small amount of trim tab, boat is riding fine. I will say this whole episode would not have occurred had one of two things happened, just as I related in my original post. First, if the tech that was out tuning my hull had continued to work on it after I said it was not a satisfactory result. Second, if somebody had met with me when I picked up the boat to explain to me that since the tech was unable to spend any additional time on it, here's what you need to do if the ride is not to your liking. After the amount of time and money I had just spent, I felt it was the least that could have been done.

Two things I want to make clear one final time: In no way, shape or form was this an attack on Bobby himself or the quality of Diamondback's products. Don't know him, never met him. Also, I'm proud to own a Diamondback. When I decided to buy an airboat and had done my research on what was out there, that was the only brand I was looking at. Second, it was not about the installation of the poly, the light or the trim tab (other than the question regarding new mounting holes). This was about my experience with the company during this service and not having received the solution to my issue that I was looking for. I'm man enough to admit that I let the frustration I felt from not having the knowledge or means to correct the ride on the boat, as well as some of the rumblings I've heard on the hill, influence some of the wording I used. Again, as I stated earlier, I should have phrased my comment regarding losing sight of their beginnings with 'It appears that' rather than 'Obviously.' I felt as if I had been left holding the bag, that I had not received the level of service Diamondback was famous for. It was easy to feel that the service I had received couldn't have been the service that had developed such a devoted customer base. To Diamondback's defense, after reading the responses on this thread, I suppose that it's automatically assumed the owner is going to take the boat home and tune it to their liking as opposed to my perception that my experience was a show of lack of desire to provide their legendary customer service anymore. That perception clearly came out of my inexperience with the culture. I'm sure comments will continue to filter in on this thread, as they would have no matter which way the issue resolved itself. That's the nature of the beast. But, as far as I'm concerned, this issue is closed. I have a boat I can use again and, thanks to Bobby, I have a new understanding of my boat.
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Re: What Happened To Pride And Workmanship?

Post by Whitebear » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:56 am

AND with that this thread is closed, with the possible exception that if Diggin or Bobby have anything to add, just PM me and I will open it for you only.

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