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I agree with Duece. The government is gonna do whatever they want regardless of the desires of a few airboaters. Unfortunately the masses are being fed a line of sh!t that what we do is harmful to the environment and wildlife. They vote and or let the government do as they please because they think they're siding on the right side. They are misled and uninformed. It happened back in the 90s with the net ban. Showed commercials of sea turtles caught in fishing nets to sway public opinion to enact the ban, PURE PROPAGANDA. Many of the old florida families lost their living and way of life. History repeats itself. I've only been airboating for the last 7 years, wish we would have started sooner. Before that was mudding in the woods my whole life and that was taken away from us in the same manner. We were wrecking the environment they said, a month could go by with out activity and you couldn't tell we were there. I believe it's just a matter of time I'm very sad to admit it. Government promises and then does whatever they want! American Indians are a prime example to what happens when dealing with the government.
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:rebel: It looks to me like there 63 and 64 gauges are below the 11.6 average elevation for closing so now they will use the 10 Deer or less on the levee crap against us . I can tell you that I have just returned from the reservation and have observed the water height first hand and there is no way that 3a south should be closed. (AND THAT IS A FACT) :rebel: AND DID NOT SEE 1 DEER IN THE 7 DAYS DOWN THERE

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I saw a 4 point standing on the side of Krome ave. in the middle of the day Wednesday. Does that mean its time to close it down. I don't believe airboats stress deer by running by them.

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So what's going on? The water doesn't seem high enough to keep it closed right now so what's the deal????
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rudee116 wrote:So what's going on? The water doesn't seem high enough to keep it closed right now so what's the deal????
You can follow the level here, it's still 0.06 above the closure mark. http://w3.saj.usace.army.mil/h2o/reports/r-wca3.html
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:rebel: Which I believe is less than 3/4 of an inch .72 of an inch but then they will have to see less than 10 deer on the L5 or L6 levee before they will open it. :rebel: so who knows when that will be

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Scotty1 wrote::rebel: Which I believe is less than 3/4 of an inch .72 of an inch but then they will have to see less than 10 deer on the L5 or L6 levee before they will open it. :rebel: so who knows when that will be
I've been watching the level since they closed it. When it was higher, they would bring it down 0.02-0.04 feet per day, then stop. It looks like they are leaving the level above the close mark on purpose.
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:rebel: My son is down in the reservation now and he told me that it has come up about 1 inch on our water gauge at camp since I was there a couple of weeks back, don't know if is from water being pumped in or just rain. I believe before they use to take the average between 63/64/65 sites which would make it open now but now they only use 63/64 sites which are 2 of the highest sites. Depending on the weather if it keeps dropping maybe they will open it up :rebel: But I am not betting on it

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:rebel: well I am confused I thought it was 63 and 64 but it looks like the are using 62 and 63 which makes it like 7 inches to high ,what the hell is going on. :rebel: I don't know I cant keep track of there crap

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Looks to me like the 62 and 63 are both under the 11.7 number
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:rebel: yes PJC the FWC action line kind of leaves me hanging it says 11.6 well is that 11.60 or 11.06. I would take it as 11.60 because of the spacing of the numbers so if that's the case than we only have .04 of an inch to go which is nothing . SO WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS :rebel:

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The regional director had used 11.7 as the number in a prior email, he must have been mistaken.

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11.62 today!!!
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http://www.saj.usace.army.mil/Media/New ... ail-canal/

Saw this on FB and I wonder , will this mean that the woods will open soon? Jason my friend if you where a betting man would you say it's a good bet I will be able to harvest my tags in 3A or in the limited area behind Holiday?
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:rebel: I am not sure if this is a good thing or not, says that dry season will start in November and last 6 months that does not sound good. :rebel: and lady black water you would have lost your bet the reservation is still open and have no plan of closing that I have heard of. When they first got enough water to ride it has dropped 2 inches and now it has came back up 1 inch, so I don't see a problem as every one is talking about. :rebel:

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Jason my friend as usual we are on the same page. The state of Florida is killing our most important resource, clean water. Too many crucks in politics and most of the population is too distracted with their personal issues to see the big picture. I was holding out hope to be able to do my gator hunt from camp this year but I am thinkin better safe than sorry. So I will most likely be out behind holiday on opening day to get to them before they become too educated. I wish FWC would see their way to letting permit holders to use the area to fill their tags but I think I stand a better chance at winning the lotto (and I don't normally buy tickets). I though maybe since they could now increase the out flow from area 3 and the fact that the water is not much above closure levels. :banghead: :banghead: :violent1: :slap:
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:rebel: It is below regulation now it is at 11.59 so now they have to count the deer :rebel: less then 10 and your good to go

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:rebel: 11.41 today don't know what they are waiting on :rebel:

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The sooner you realize they don't want to open it, the clearer the picture becomes. I've said it once and I've said it a hundred times, they don't want to spend the money patrolling us or dealing with us. Easiest way to do this, close the areas we use. If you can prove me otherwise, I'll listen, but doubt I'll believe you.

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so what's the penalty if they can catch you running it when it is closed?

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Whatever the reason for the closures is, I don't think it has to do with not wanting to patrol us. Those areas are pretty infrequently patrolled as it is, in general. The majority of FWC officer's are not out running airboats, so it's not like that is a huge budgetary concern for them. Not to mention they just bought a new $75,000 diamondback a year or two ago, why spend that money if you're going to enact closures to reduce your need to patrol. My point simply being, I don't think that has anything to do with it.

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ACOE and NPS would love nothing more than to see us gone...
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:rebel: LBW suppose you tell us less knowledgeable people what the big picture and the scheme of things is. :rebel:

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The problem is a poor deer attitude. Te ten deer you might see on the levy probably came from the west out of the cypress. And I know of no other state where they close a area so deer can rest. Big cypress is closed for a month after hunting season so the deer can rest. High water , keep everyone away so the deer can rest. We have the most rested deer in the country.

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Again, until I can see proof, I"m not believing otherwise. They don't want us there FEDERAL and STATE! Show me something, anything that states a deer is stressed by high water leads to high mortality rates and I'll shut up, but until then you all beating your chest about water quality can pound sand for all I care. This closure has 0 to do w/water quality and with deer herd management, it has EVERYTHING to do with the removal of the airboater from the Glades. Prove me wrong...I'm waiting...

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