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Starters

Postby Red326 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:59 am

Im thinking about ditching my car starter for an aircraft starter, my question is given the price, will aircraft starters outlast a car starter? And is it worth it? Im running an angle valve 0-360. Thanks :dontknow:

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Re: Starters

Postby John Fenner » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:13 am

Aircraft starters are meant to crank up, fly and land, then crank up cold, not crank hot unless it is a banner or glider tow plane, stick with the denso starter, be sure vent is covered so rain won't enter it, have motor prepped internally to combat rust on brush holder as in zinc chromate primer etc.
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Re: Starters

Postby Gary S » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:25 am

Auto starter also spins motor faster. If you have a mag that is a little weak motor will start easier.

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Re: Starters

Postby Red326 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:20 pm

Thanks I’ll just stick to what I have then.

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Re: Starters

Postby kwanjangnihm » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:24 pm

Red326 be sure that all of your connections are clean especially the ground connections. :thumbleft:
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Re: Starters

Postby twister69z » Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:14 pm

I will stick to my sky Tec starter , one made for a aircraft engine.
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Re: Starters

Postby Red326 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:57 pm

kwanjangnihm wrote:Red326 be sure that all of your connections are clean especially the ground connections. :thumbleft:


Going over those wires in the morning, I see some corrosion, going to clean everything up with a wire brush. Was going to do this today, but I got side tracked with an oil change. Had a fellow airboater show up on my drive way and we started shooting the breeze, turns out he lives around the corner from me and we are going to ride together next weekend. Nice to meet some local folk to ride with :cheers: :cheers:

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Re: Starters

Postby SeatCover » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:57 am

If you have a bad connection somewhere it will get hot pretty quick when you try to crank it, I had a a bunch of broke strands on a cable end and couldn't see it bc of the shrink wrap, it was making my 320 sluggish to crank. Try feeling all the connections to see if they get hot when you crank it. Also make sure you have good ground, right to the starter or engine block.
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Re: Starters

Postby Red326 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:57 pm

Rechecked all my connections cleaned with a wire brush and put dielectric grease on the connections moter cranks much faster as it should even when hot, Thanks for the info guys. :thumbleft: :salute:

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Re: Starters

Postby nunook » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:34 pm

I use a Hitachi Planetary SB Chevy Starter Works Great, on a lycoming, don't even have to change the gear.You can buy a starter in a pinch at any auto part store. Bolt and go
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Re: Starters

Postby nunook » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:35 pm

I use a Hitachi Planetary SB Chevy Starter Works Great, on a lycoming, don't even have to change the gear.You can buy a starter in a pinch at any auto part store. Bolt and go.
I built a bracket on a GSO480 with a standard Lycoming (i thing 144 tooth) ring gear because I kept breaking the ears off the Nippo Starters due to being cast.
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Re: Starters

Postby terrible ted » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:59 pm

I went with a MSD after all the failure of AIR junk starters. It has out lasted all the tech starters by about 6 years now. Made for a Chevy adapted to a Lycoming

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Re: Starters

Postby John Fenner » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:19 pm

The nippondenso units have to use the steel backing plate to avoid the ears from breaking if it is the 1.8 the 2.0 and 2.1 they have solid ears, also the vents need to be plugged and not allow rain to fall into them, plus if brush holding cage is not coated to prevent rust, the brushes will stick and thus starter is dead.
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Re: Starters

Postby terrible ted » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:36 pm

John Fenner wrote:The nippondenso units have to use the steel backing plate to avoid the ears from breaking if it is the 1.8 the 2.0 and 2.1 they have solid ears, also the vents need to be plugged and not allow rain to fall into them, plus if brush holding cage is not coated to prevent rust, the brushes will stick and thus starter is dead.



I believe this was my Dans problem he had starters die like crazy on him.

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Re: Starters

Postby John Fenner » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:52 pm

If the brush cages were cad or zinc plated, they would last forever.
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