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Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:05 pm
by painterchic
OK Boys... I've gone and done it.... (not gasping for air yet... but its certainly possible that I might be later... so I have the brown paper bag handy... you know... just in case :lol: ).... I bought a Continental IO-470-L that came out of a Cessna.... NOW, heres the first problem of this little "rebuild project"... I'm going to pick it up this weekend... gonna drive almost 10 hours one way to get it, (the gasping is probably gonna start when I have to stop at the gas station 20 times on the way and way back....lol) Anyway... seeing as I'm not even qualified to be considered a "Nubie" at this airboat building stuff yet, I'm looking for a downloadable service manual for this baby and I can't seem to find one... I also need some pictures so that when I get there to pick it up, I can ask (if I need to, that is..) for the parts that may not be on it and actually act like I know what I'm talking about.... I have the serial number off the plate that is still on it, but I've looked and can't seem to find any good pictures with little arrows or any other useful information or whatnot to tell me what parts are, so I can ask some almost intelligent questions when I get there.... anybody got any ideas??? HELPPPPPP!!! :D :D :D

T

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:11 pm
by goldhunter_2
we know you need help all right :lol: .............(oh wait did she mean just the motor :lol: )

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:22 pm
by painterchic
Yeah go ahead... laugh it up Sparky.... you know who's gonna be on speed dial for all my blonde questions don't you.... so go ahead... chuckle all you want... :twisted: I can come up with questions that will boggle your mind... Oh wait... I forgot who I'm talking about here... well I guess it won't take alot of effort on my part then.... this is JUST THE BEGINNING!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

T :D

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:33 pm
by Whitebear
Ok Painter chicken

Now that ya bought an aircraft engine, Ill put this post in the aircraft section. It will get better visibility and more and morebetter answers for ya.

BTW: thats one sweet engine. If its right out of an aircraft it may not need a rebuild.

Did ya check http://www.aircraftspruce.com?

Scotty

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:47 pm
by painterchic
Thanks Scotty, I thought about that after I posted it.... (sometimes I type faster than my brain can keep up...lol)

The engine will definitely need a bit of work as to how much, that is yet to be determined.... it apparently had a slight landing problem.... I know there is a possibility of a prop strike, so I'm just gonna go 100% through it and make sure everything is right so I don't miss anything... well at least I HOPE I won't....lol I also want to go through it completely so I understand how it works as well.... this is gonna be completely new to me... I'm used to making things look pretty, not actually making them move...LOL Even with Car Engines... I know just enough to be dangerous and I know it... so I usually just stick to what I know and let someone else who knows what they are doing, fix under the hood engine wise... but I want to do this myself with guidance from all my SA buddies... (I'm gonna have to do some sucking up... I can see it now.... :lol: :lol: :lol: )

T

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:49 pm
by goldhunter_2
ya like whitebear said put in the right section what is wrong with you anyway :lol:


Did I mention I was going to get my number changed tomorrow :lol:

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:52 pm
by bravo1218
WOW T
What are you doing buying an aircraft engine? How many airplanes have you painted??? You should have got a car motor. How many cars have you painted? At least you would have had local support.
Now that I have abused you now I will say glad you are "in the fold" I'm sure you will have plenty of help.
Good Luck Tim

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:53 pm
by rick
Congratulations Painterchic.

Here's a spec sheet from the Continental website: http://www.tcmlink.com/EngSpecSheetDocs/IO470L.pdf

It's a large file (8 meg.), but here's an old manual to the carbureted version: http://southernairboat.com/pdf/aircraft ... L-M_MO.pdf

Rick

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:57 pm
by bravo1218
While I was typing I noticed you put up a new post. If there has been a prop strike I would be sure and check the prop flange runout for a bent crank. That would be a bad mistake to buy the engine if it has a bent crank. You would need a dial indicator to check it but I would either do it yourself or have someone do it before you put down the cash.
Tim

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:01 pm
by Whitebear
Yeh see if the crank is bent or the flange or neither. It all depends on WHAT KIND of prop strike. They can be anything from catastrophic to no damage. If the engine is cheep enough even a catastrophic strike is worth fixing. Remember props are aluminum but cranks are steel.

Worth looking at. Especially if you have the manuals to tell ya how/what things should be.

Scotty

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:16 pm
by painterchic
Oh this is great!!! Thanks guys for the info! Well here's the scoop on the engine... I spent $567 on it... I figured if it wasn't worth fixing, then it should have enough good parts on it to get me started on another one... all else fails... part it out and try to recoup my $$... it was a gamble I hope will pay off... but if I were good at gambling I would have won the lottery by now right??? LOL

To tell you the truth Bravo... to me... (being a chic and all...) Aircraft engines looked like they would be a little easier for me to figure out... besides the fact they are already set up for a prop and I don't have to mess with all the gear reduction stuff... I would be WAYYY out of my league on them... either way, I'm still in foreign territory, so I figured why not try something I haven't a clue about....LOL I like a challenge! I think since I don't know ANYTHING and I stress anything about aircraft engines other than to tell you if its a Lycoming or a Cont.... I might actually be better off than if I were to take on a car engine that I only know enough to get me into trouble... and not necessarily back out of it...lol As for working on Airplanes... I have actually painted quite a few parts for planes... I work just down the road from the local airport and every so often they bring me stuff to paint... no luck there on an engine... but parts to paint I can get...lol I'm also hoping if I have to hit up some local help, then I can find one of the Mechs at the airport to give me a hand... but we'll see.... gotta get it home first...

T

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:29 pm
by RiverRat
Hey, painterchic
This sounds just zackly like an A/C engine I saw... I believe in Ohio??
Glad you bought it!

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:36 pm
by painterchic
Yup... thats the one! Road Trip! So do you think I did ok $$ wise? Or did I screw myself....

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:40 pm
by painterchic
goldhunter_2 wrote:ya like whitebear said put in the right section what is wrong with you anyway :lol:


Did I mention I was going to get my number changed tomorrow :lol:
Oh BITE ME! :lol: :lol: I can't be perfect all the time! I know its hard to believe... but I am human! (you on the otherhand.... the jury is still out on... :D )

BTW Your number is safe for a few days... the engine isn't here yet.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:53 pm
by RiverRat
painterchic wrote:Yup... thats the one! Road Trip! So do you think I did ok $$ wise? Or did I screw myself....
I don't know, but I was sure eye-ballin that thing myself. I was trying to figure out who I knew close enough to it to look at it for me, but everybody I know up there is at least a couple or three hours away from it, so I hated to ask... so I passed it up. I couldn't tell from the pictures much about it, but if no crank damage, it ought to be a really good deal. It was a nice/clean lookin engine... for an A/C engine (he, he) :lol:
Hope it doesn't have any damage.

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:30 pm
by Geneva0550
Congrats PC...The IO470L is a nice engine. :thumbup:

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:31 pm
by painterchic
you and me both....LOL, but I'm preparing myself for the worst... just in case....

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:33 pm
by RiverRat
It really did look super clean in the pictures... Like it probably wasn't all that old. That's what caught my eye the most.

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:36 pm
by nomad41
Well let see.She bought a hull and its in Miami.Now bought a motor and its in Ohio.And PC is in New York.Am I missing something here?Or is this a female thing. :D

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:45 pm
by painterchic
Wellllll.... that is a slight issue....lol... I think I'm gonna go for a "national" kind of theme here.... I'll try to locate a part in every state.... and of course I'll have to make one of those little maps you see on the backs of motorhomes that have the states on them that the people have traveled... only mine will be for where the parts came from... :lol: :lol: But I'm hoping if I can get moved to FL by this fall, MAYBE I can have the motor done by then, so I can concentrate on the hull when I get there... but I have to finish the house first before I can go anywhere... I'm using the airboat as incentive to get off my butt and get the house done... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:41 pm
by Whitebear
Didnt somebody sing about.....one piece at a time, and it didnt cost me a dime........ its a 51, 52, 53.....

Hahahahahahahahahahah

Scotty

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:30 pm
by bondsman
bought a hull,didnt tell me, now an a/c engine and want to move to florida. :shock: in the words of gomer pyle surprise,surprise,surprise.

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:50 am
by Des Moines Boater
It sounds like you did good on the engine. I'm guessing the crank needs replaced for the price you paid. Tear the engine apart and send the crank to Aircraft Specialties in Tulsa Oklahoma. They have a web site and you can see the prices they charge for inspection and repair work. If they say it is all right, then send them the camshaft, lifters and other internal parts. When you get all the parts back you will have a perfect platform to put on your boat. They are so easy to work on that you will be surprised. Good luck and keep us informed how it goes.

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:07 am
by Buzz
Sounds to me like a new airboat on the pond called "NATIONAL VELVET". I'm proud o' you, Paintergirl!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: I look forward to seeing your new ride when she's finished!!
Buzz

Re: Painterchic bought an Engine... now I need help!!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:12 am
by Sniper
Painter Chick

I would find out how long that engine has been sitting and if it was in a dry environment
because if it has been sitting for a while it could have internal rust and that's a very bad thing
I was afraid that was going to be the case on Bud's motor but I did not speek up because I did not want to spoil the moment and for every one that was working so hard on the project but you see what happend to his motor so ask and find out how long it has been sitting you don't want a motor with rusted or pited Cylinders or cam shaft and according to all the Lycoming guy's you are going to need lots of oil and oil dry for that Clankanental :lol: