200hp 0360 vs 0540

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200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by swampposh » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:13 am

I am looking for an used airboat and have been doing research reading this site, the classifieds, and talking to some builders. I wanting to hunt the boat for deer, hogs, and fowl, be able to run the switch grass carrying 1- 2 grown men , an 8yr old, and 2-3 dogs about 50lbs and a hog. I am looking for a 12-13 ft palm beach style hull with a single rudder or an Al David style 13' chine boat.

I have seen the 12' Stossel in the classifieds. I am not sure but I don't think even a 200hp carbonated 360 will push the load above, but I dont know from experience what the 360's limitations are.

I also want to know if anyone that runs a 0540 on a 12ft palm beach style thinks the boat itself is big enough for the load above. Is a 0540 meant for a 13ft boat and really overkill for a 12'?

If you buy a boat with an 0360, how hard is it to change the rigging to an 0540?

If you have a boat that you want to sell that sounds like what I am looking for, please private message me.
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by Outlawaircraftengines » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:28 am

A 540 will always carry the load.
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by kfowler » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:54 am

what you need is a direct drive 500 Cadillac. I heard those things are beasts. if you're into carboats.

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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by swampposh » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:04 am

kfowler wrote:what you need is a direct drive 500 Cadillac. I heard those things are beasts. if you're into carboats.
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by Tony480 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:08 am

I know where there's a palm beach with an upstack 540. All new for $15,500...pm me if interested.

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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by swampposh » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:08 am

Outlawaircraftengines wrote:A 540 will always carry the load.
I need an 0540 then. I'ts probably not worth changing the motor on the 12'. The hunt for a 13ft palm beach style with an 0540 continues.
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by shootingtheBREEZE » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:13 am

swampposh wrote:
kfowler wrote:what you need is a direct drive 500 Cadillac. I heard those things are beasts. if you're into carboats.
nope looking for an airboat
Sounds like for the load your carrying you should probably go with a 13 ft boat with a 540AV that should get the job done. 200AV Lycoming are great if you want to keep it on the light side they will go anywhere 2 guys and a cooler full of beer and your golden. but 2 guys, 8year old, 2 dogs and a hog and al your gear that might be a bit much if you plan on running a lot of dry ground.

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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by twister69z » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:17 am

swampposh wrote:
kfowler wrote:what you need is a direct drive 500 Cadillac. I heard those things are beasts. if you're into carboats.
nope looking for an airboat
That is funny!
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by cody_spencer » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:41 am

a 200 is a bad bitch if you have 2 seats and a cooler full of beer with a light boat but for what your wanting to do, a 540 is it. for what you want your going to want to keep it light. the lighter the boat is the easier it is going to be for the motor and the boat to run dry ground and up in the bushes. I would suggest an open hull not a deckover. deckovers are nice but they aren't suited for what you want unless you plan on adding some $$$ to the hull. open hulls are nice because you can keep it light and stout. I would suggest an alumitech 12x7'6 125 bottom and 90 sides. keeps it stout but light and go with medium sides about 17-20' high with side by side rigging. this allows you to have more room in the boat and easier to run through shit and top it with a 540 angle valve. not a straight valve or your going to be upset.

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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by swampposh » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:15 pm

cody_spencer wrote:a 200 is a bad bitch if you have 2 seats and a cooler full of beer with a light boat but for what your wanting to do, a 540 is it. for what you want your going to want to keep it light. the lighter the boat is the easier it is going to be for the motor and the boat to run dry ground and up in the bushes. I would suggest an open hull not a deckover. deckovers are nice but they aren't suited for what you want unless you plan on adding some $$$ to the hull. open hulls are nice because you can keep it light and stout. I would suggest an alumitech 12x7'6 125 bottom and 90 sides. keeps it stout but light and go with medium sides about 17-20' high with side by side rigging. this allows you to have more room in the boat and easier to run through **** and top it with a 540 angle valve. not a straight valve or your going to be upset.


i am looking for an 1/4 to 3/4 deck, not a full deck. I am thinking its going to have to rn 0540. I considered the 200hp , but i just think its not enough. I am looking palm beach style, if its going to be a dual rudder boat with a chine, i am going al david. not sure about alumitech.
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by KR23 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:20 pm

Call AL David at Performance Airboats and go for a ride, he hunts the same type of boat you are looking for. (407) 349 1209.
13x 7, 3 grown men and dogs not an issue with a 540 on it. Take a ride and decide for yourself.
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by swampposh » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:56 pm

KR23 wrote:Call AL David at Performance Airboats and go for a ride, he hunts the same type of boat you are looking for. (407) 349 1209.
13x 7, 3 grown men and dogs not an issue with a 540 on it. Take a ride and decide for yourself.
I spoke to Al last week and plan to go for a ride up on the St Johns before I buy. I am hoping a pre-owned AD comes available so I have an option. I am sort of torn between a chine boat with two rudders like Al's and a palm beach style boat but I need to ride both to see. The reason I like the stossel and david boats is that I know they are built by people that hunt and that's what I want is a hunt boat.
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by SkinnerBack » Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:32 pm

cody_spencer wrote:a 200 is a bad bitch if you have 2 seats and a cooler full of beer with a light boat but for what your wanting to do, a 540 is it. for what you want your going to want to keep it light. the lighter the boat is the easier it is going to be for the motor and the boat to run dry ground and up in the bushes. I would suggest an open hull not a deckover. deckovers are nice but they aren't suited for what you want unless you plan on adding some $$$ to the hull. open hulls are nice because you can keep it light and stout. I would suggest an alumitech 12x7'6 125 bottom and 90 sides. keeps it stout but light and go with medium sides about 17-20' high with side by side rigging. this allows you to have more room in the boat and easier to run through **** and top it with a 540 angle valve. not a straight valve or your going to be upset.
Not sure where you think he would be upset with a SV...... Sorry but iv seen SV walk all over AV....... & to be honest a SV540 set up right will do the job.....

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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by Hambone79 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:24 pm

Tony480 wrote:I know where there's a palm beach with an upstack 540. All new for $15,500...pm me if interested.



I know the boat that Tony is Referring to and have seen it run personally it is a bad a$$ boat and will do everything you asking for.

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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by swampposh » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:10 pm

Hambone79 wrote:
Tony480 wrote:I know where there's a palm beach with an upstack 540. All new for $15,500...pm me if interested.



I know the boat that Tony is Referring to and have seen it run personally it is a bad a$$ boat and will do everything you asking for.

I am waiting on hearing back from Tony480 so I can get in touch with the owner. while we're at it, what does "upstack" 0540 mean?
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by fl cracker » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:38 pm

swampposh wrote:
kfowler wrote:what you need is a direct drive 500 Cadillac. I heard those things are beasts. if you're into carboats.
nope looking for an airboat

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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by farmboy » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:38 pm

Hambone79 wrote:
Tony480 wrote:I know where there's a palm beach with an upstack 540. All new for $15,500...pm me if interested.



I know the boat that Tony is Referring to and have seen it run personally it is a bad a$$ boat and will do everything you asking for.
X2 that boat is bad a$$ and is well worth the money.
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by milo540 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:45 pm

Just seen an al David boat with a warrior 540 on it $16,500 obo....seems like a hell of a deal when they are going for 30k or more...
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by Tony480 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:59 pm

Pm sent...I text you his number earlier also

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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by Fat Cat » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:32 pm

If the boat Tony is talking bout is the one from from Okeechobee then its a bad dude. It will get you where you wanna go no doubts.
Just noticed your from Jupiter. We can probly set up a test ride with that boat on Sat at Lock 7 on the lake. The motor is solid on that thing no doubt. I did a little work on it when it was being put together. Very clean.
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by g1moore1 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:44 pm

That boat is still for sale! Can't believe it's still available. That's 540/palm beach setup is sweet. Saw it run a while back.
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by mixedbag » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:46 am

Look at the pic of my boat in the avatar it originally had an 0540 on it, very scary. So I put a 320 on it about 170 hp it pushed me and another man and a 50 pound dog and cooler all over, problem is with this sled bottom so flat and square, no turning chines, we would get stuck in certain terrain. Maybe a 470 would have worked better, now I have a 13' laser hull with an 0540 if I can't get there I probably shouldn't be there.
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by calbrigsr » Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:19 am

SkinnerBack wrote:
cody_spencer wrote:a 200 is a bad bitch if you have 2 seats and a cooler full of beer with a light boat but for what your wanting to do, a 540 is it. for what you want your going to want to keep it light. the lighter the boat is the easier it is going to be for the motor and the boat to run dry ground and up in the bushes. I would suggest an open hull not a deckover. deckovers are nice but they aren't suited for what you want unless you plan on adding some $$$ to the hull. open hulls are nice because you can keep it light and stout. I would suggest an alumitech 12x7'6 125 bottom and 90 sides. keeps it stout but light and go with medium sides about 17-20' high with side by side rigging. this allows you to have more room in the boat and easier to run through **** and top it with a 540 angle valve. not a straight valve or your going to be upset.
Not sure where you think he would be upset with a SV...... Sorry but iv seen SV walk all over AV....... & to be honest a SV540 set up right will do the job.....
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by doubledown0540 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:00 am

i like the SV540 too. I got a little on the heavy side of a boat and i go anywhere i want with 3 grown men full tank of gas cooler full of beer and what ever anyone wants to through in my boat to lighten their boat up.
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Re: 200hp 0360 vs 0540

Post by plumcrazy » Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:41 am

the boat tonys talking about is a steal and just what your looking for there's a video of it on the water walker face book page check it out 8) the 360 would work but when you get the hog in there well its gonna get abused a bit the 540 gonna hurt the wallet more with a av bill..... i like the four bangers a lot ,, but there is nothing in the world of airboating like a good 540 rig well thought out 8)

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