HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

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HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Whitebear » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:16 pm

Got this in Email tonight !

"Dear Friends,

With your support and testimony, HB4001 has officially cleared the House Energy and Utilities Subcommittee and is one step closer to relieving consumers of Florida’s oppressive ethanol mandate. The next stop for HB4001 will be the House Regulatory Affairs Committee. I look forward to working with the committee members and to sharing with them the overwhelming evidence provided by business owners and constituents throughout the state.

Please wait for details to come regarding this committee meeting. Thank you again for your dedication to this issue.

All the best,
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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Olf Art » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:30 pm

That is outstanding news ...... hopefully it'll pass committee and be handed to the governor.
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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby terrible ted » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:59 am

Olf Art wrote:That is outstanding news ...... hopefully it'll pass committee and be handed to the governor.



Thank you there is some intelligence up there.

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Postby Dixiedog60 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:10 am

That is awsome news, hope it really comes to pass, I just spent $600 rebuilding the carbs and replacing all the hoses on my center console. I am sick of rotten fuel!
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HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Comanche-pup » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:20 am

Dixiedog60 wrote:That is awsome news, hope it really comes to pass, I just spent $600 rebuilding the carbs and replacing all the hoses on my center console. I am sick of rotten fuel!

it must have screwed up one of their million dollar yachts

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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby BluByU2 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:49 am

Is this something where we can contact our legislators to voice our opinion, or is it beyond our input at this point? I hope ethanol is removed from our gasoline supply forever!

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Postby :) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:50 am

I wonder if then we will have to pay higher gas prices I'm sure. I got my boat down right now due to ethanol also.
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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Jake.R » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:09 am

Comanche-pup wrote:
Dixiedog60 wrote:That is awsome news, hope it really comes to pass, I just spent $600 rebuilding the carbs and replacing all the hoses on my center console. I am sick of rotten fuel!

it must have screwed up one of their million dollar yachts


X2 haha. Wish they would pass that up here!! I'm also tired of rotten gas and having to work on anything that sits a while between use
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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Blownaway540 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:04 am

Jake R.- Thats why if it does not have a catalytic (spelling) convertor, everything I own runs on AV gas. From lawnmowers, roto-tillers, weedeaters, edgers, chainsaws, IO boat etc.... JMO This is great news!!!
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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Dixiedog60 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:18 am

Av gas is great but its also $7:00 a gallon up here in Jax now. Such a rip off! Its painful even feeding my little 4 banger.
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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Christie » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:00 pm

Good news WB, let's hope that the Bill keeps it's momentum. I know that the regular unleaded costs about 20 cents a gallon more than the ethanol where they offer both back in the Midwest. Look at it this way though, you'll get 10 - 15% more mpg with the regular unleaded gas. Here's the math: A vehicle getting 20 mpg on ethanol at $3.00 a gallon costs 15 cents per mile. You get 10% better mileage with regular gas, so the 22 mpg that you get with $3.20 regular gas only costs you 14.5 cents per mile. The ethanol is cheaper at the pump because it's subsidized so you're really paying twice.

I've heard that ethanol is so corrosive that the fuel suppliers can't mix it and push through the pipeline. It has to be mixed at the tanker. May get 10% alcohol or even 15% depending on how precise the mix is.

Somehow when I wrote this earlier it ended up in the "Alcohol Talks" thread. Yep, I suppose it does :drunken:

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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby gchuckie » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:27 pm

This is how they will get there $ 5.00 a gallon for fuel like they want!

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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Jake.R » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:41 pm

Blownaway540 wrote:Jake R.- Thats why if it does not have a catalytic (spelling) convertor, everything I own runs on AV gas. From lawnmowers, roto-tillers, weedeaters, edgers, chainsaws, IO boat etc.... JMO This is great news!!!


If i had the money i would do the same. Im barely making it on pump gas lol. That is a good idea though!
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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby swampbuggyguy » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:07 pm

http://www.thefloridacurrent.com/articl ... d=31617062

"Democrats on the committee joined Rep. Debbie Mayfield, R-Vero Beach, in arguing against the bill. Her late husband, Stan, was House energy committee chairman in 2008 when it passed the requirement, and a University of Florida biofuels pilot project in Perry is named after him.

"We said that we were going to be a renewable energy state," she said. "We were going to encourage businesses to come into the state of Florida to do this. When we are sending a message to them, 'Sorry, we are changing our mind,' that is not a good message to send out to businesses.""

Encourage business by shoving something down consumers throat?

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Postby Whitebear » Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:02 pm

Renewable energy is a magnificent solution to a non existent problem.
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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby scrambletown » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:40 am

you people can buy gas without ethanol, its at most distributors.
clardy in ocala sells it.
theres a station in barberville that sells it.
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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby justme » Mon May 27, 2013 2:34 pm

Buy a water separator and use a lead additive if your gonna run unleaded fuel and your problem solved, it's not the ethanol that causes the damage it's the water retained .If you don't keep the tank full ,during the day when it heats up the air and fuel expand at night when the the sun goes down it cools off , as it cools down it pulls in cooler air which contains moisture , aluminum and plastic tanks increase the effect . plastic being the worse,Don't blame the ethanol for anything other than the decreased economy you get ,Water is the cause of the damage and is easy to prevent, If you want to see for yourself take a 5 gal can fill it half way up sit it out in the sun for a few days (has to be a vented can and use plastic can ) If you live in florida you'll see just how much water your fuel picks up, So before you decide to tell me i'm wrong , try it

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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Whitebear » Mon May 27, 2013 3:21 pm

Water indeed is part of the problem, but water doesn't dissolve carb floats and o-rings. Water doesn't dissolve fuel lines and fuel pump diaphrams. The denaturing agent, usually acetone, and the ethanol itself does.
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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby robert4570 » Mon May 27, 2013 7:36 pm

I wonder what the total cost has been in repairs as a result of this E10 crap?
Those responsible should be held accountable.
I've got 3 carbs ,that I've had to deal due to this watered down crap.
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HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Oilfield Trash » Mon May 27, 2013 8:23 pm

Whitebear wrote:Renewable energy is a magnificent solution to a non existent problem.


Yes sir. You are a wise man indeed. I recently worked with a marine engineer who worked for a well known company. He said that in the Gulf of Mexico alone their current company assets are projected to supply over 100 years. That's one company. That being said, I cringe when I hear politicians push nonsense. Eventually they will want to tax me for driving a V8. I mean "who needs 8 cylinders anyway"! (Gun pun)

I hope this goes through. In the meantime this is a good website to find some ethanol free gas in your area: http://pure-gas.org/

Also, everything you need to know about ethanol and its damaging effects along with what additives actually work:
http://www.fuel-testers.com/index.html

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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby terrible ted » Mon May 27, 2013 8:40 pm

justme wrote:Buy a water separator and use a lead additive if your gonna run unleaded fuel and your problem solved, it's not the ethanol that causes the damage it's the water retained .If you don't keep the tank full ,during the day when it heats up the air and fuel expand at night when the the sun goes down it cools off , as it cools down it pulls in cooler air which contains moisture , aluminum and plastic tanks increase the effect . plastic being the worse,Don't blame the ethanol for anything other than the decreased economy you get ,Water is the cause of the damage and is easy to prevent, If you want to see for yourself take a 5 gal can fill it half way up sit it out in the sun for a few days (has to be a vented can and use plastic can ) If you live in florida you'll see just how much water your fuel picks up, So before you decide to tell me i'm wrong , try it



Thats like saying dont blame the shooter its the lead in the bullet that caused his death. It not the water.

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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Sniper » Tue May 28, 2013 6:36 am

Ethanol in gas is bad because it is corrosive it eats up seals and gaskets and erodes needle seats in carbs we have the same problem in Georgia with it as well the jerk that came up with the Idea of putting that junk in gas ought to be horse whipped :evil:
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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Whitebear » Tue May 28, 2013 7:16 am

I favor horse whippin politicians.
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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Sniper » Tue May 28, 2013 8:44 am

you know they ought to make that a law, every time they do something stupid or corrupt they get horse whipped
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Re: HB 4001 Removing FL Ethanol Mandate

Postby Olf Art » Tue May 28, 2013 1:27 pm

Sniper wrote:you know they ought to make that a law, every time they do something stupid or corrupt they get horse whipped

George, I'd be happy if they just had to resign! They can commit a felony and never miss a paycheck!! :roll:
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