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Post by cudacat » Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:51 pm

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Post by Daddy Dave » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:37 am

Very good stuff - I believe what you have done will make a world of difference - what have you decided about the 1/2" poly?
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Post by Southern Style » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:48 am

Man, you have taken ALOT of weight out of that... That thing should scream at less RPM's now... Keep up the great work...
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Post by cudacat » Mon May 31, 2010 12:35 am

Southern Style wrote:Man, you have taken ALOT of weight out of that... That thing should scream at less RPM's now... Keep up the great work...
I hope so. It turned into alot more work than I expected. I have finished everything except the camo clad on the out side of the boat, which I will wait until duck season to do. I have had enough boat work lately and ready to have so fun. I am a little pumped about running it for the first time due to all the changes. After all has been done the boat lost 486 lbs and gain 10" of front deck. What the scary thing is, the only problem I had with the boat before I started this project was the boat ran to many cruise rpms. Other than that it did pretty much everything I needed. I will post a few pics Monday morning. I will also post up after the first run to tell the differance......... THANKS GUY FOR THE HELP..... Andy
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Post by Lonewolf9029 » Mon May 31, 2010 9:28 am

Cudacat: It will be good to see you on the water again. Funny how those projects end up taking more time than we think, thats if you're going to do it right! Don't want to sound like a know it all but we increased my pitch which reduced my cruise RPM's. Post us a video of how the new boat runs. Slide some dry and see how she does. Good Luck Don
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Post by cudacat » Mon May 31, 2010 11:12 am

will post picture later. taking to long to resize pictures.....
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Post by Lonewolf9029 » Mon May 31, 2010 12:55 pm

Coming along good!
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Post by cudacat » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:27 am

Going to take a break from working on it and run and do some tweaking.... Will finish the outside with camoclad in October.

I am ready to see how she runs......
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Post by Lonewolf9029 » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:49 am

Andy: She's really looking good. I know how that feeling is of running her. I spent 10 weeks on my build and it turned into (like a) second job. I was really happy to get to hit the water. I'm sure you will be too! On my build I got rid of around 750Lbs of uncessary weight. So, I basically got a whole new boat. Yours will be like that as well--Good Luck with ur Maiden voyage and tell us how it goes :bounce: Don
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Post by Southern Style » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:53 pm

MAN......... 486 lbs... Think of how your boat ran with 2 almost 3 less full grown men !!!!!! That is gonna be the difference.. Lone wolf, 750 lbs ???????????? GOOD LORD.. That is like throwing everything off of my boat except the hull !!!!!!!!!!!!! Man, those boats are gonna scream !!!!!
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Post by cudacat » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:36 pm

Lonewolf9029 wrote:Andy: She's really looking good. I know how that feeling is of running her. I spent 10 weeks on my build and it turned into (like a) second job. I was really happy to get to hit the water. I'm sure you will be too! On my build I got rid of around 750Lbs of uncessary weight. So, I basically got a whole new boat. Yours will be like that as well--Good Luck with ur Maiden voyage and tell us how it goes :bounce: Don
Thanks Don

I'm going to try and run it this weeknd. I'm also thinking of taking it into the SS motor guy that you guys talk about to have it tuned.... if i remember correct his name was Allen? Not sure if I need to take in though. Have not had a problem with it yet. Turn the key it start. I have the motor set around 1/8 of a bubble high in the rear. Is this to high in the rear to start with.
I have heard start at level. Andy
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Post by Lonewolf9029 » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:07 pm

Andy: yes Allen Bills@S&S carb. They're Dyno-ing Crowhaters motor this afternoon. I'm going to be there in the morning with my boat. I installed an Edelbrock Performer RPM intake on it yesterday and messed up the timing. He's the best I've seen. Want to take the wife out this weekend for her first dry!
I would say on our style boats, 1/4, 1/2, or 1" doesn't make much difference. I started with mine as close to level as I could, might be off one way or the other. Boat doesn't seem to know it. Im probably wrong, but thats nothing new :mrgreen: . Don
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Post by cudacat » Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:26 am

Got to run her yesterday. Big difference in the water. The boat jumps right up on plane like it never has. it’s a different boat!!! seem like I have a bunch more power in all rpm ranges I ran it on the river where I could not find very big stretches of shallow water, Mostly all deep from 4 to 8ft. I am still not sure about my cruise. Deep water cruise is about 4000. My shallow water cruise 1 foot or less seemed to be around 3200 to 3500. Does this still sound too high? The boat starts to porpoise around 33mph slightly and if I hold it a 33 it will gradually get worse. If I pour the coals to it at 33 she flattens out and runs great, around 43-45mph it will start to porpoise again but not bad.

I have the prop pitch a little over 2.25 and it holds the motor at 5100. After the river run I drop the boat in a cow pastor in Garwood. 100 degrees no moister in grass or on ground. Got in the boat spun the prop up and it moved about 2 foot forward and got hung up. I could only inch forward after that. Didn’t want to push it to hard so loaded back on the trailer. I got hung up on a cow turd or maybe its sticky grass. verity of grasses no moister at all. Boat may be too big to run cow pastors. If I started on the gravel road I could run it. Might be time for more power….

What do yall think? Andy
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Post by plumcrazy » Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:04 am

green hot grass and dry polly dont mix

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Post by cudacat » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:32 pm

plumcrazy wrote:green hot grass and dry polly dont mix
Thanks plum..... I figure that out the hard way.....
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Post by 455Olds » Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:30 pm

I am truly a novice and by no means want to come off like I know what I am talking about but I have recently been building a boat with the help of a few people on this site namely Dan Huebner (Dan the Airboat Man) and just last weekend I was having a somewhat similar problem.
Could not run the hill (or pasture) Dan said that there was absolutely no reason that my rig should not run the hill that I must have the rear of the engine too high - that it needed to be level or a little under, I removed a couple of washers and presto - I was cruising the pasture like the DD setup was in the water!

JMO but I would definitely take another look at where the rear of your motor is.
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Post by chargedupoutlaw » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:02 pm

looks like that belt drive is alot shorter than a rotator but like cottonmouth said the guard wont have any place to bolt up bottom line needs a new guard to be right if u do manage to get it bolted up without it hittn or anything its gonna look terrable
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Post by cudacat » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:09 am

chargedupoutlaw wrote:looks like that belt drive is alot shorter than a rotator but like cottonmouth said the guard wont have any place to bolt up bottom line needs a new guard to be right if u do manage to get it bolted up without it hittn or anything its gonna look terrable
its all back together and bolted down. slid everthing back around 9". going to run it for a while like this and if anything goes well i will leave it. I still have room to move motor stand back 4" more without mounting the cage in a dfferant location.
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Post by cudacat » Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:31 pm

I haven’t posted on this thread in a while.

but since my last post I have blown up my zz4 350 (June 10) while the zz4 was getting machined and rebuilt I bought a motor off of craigslist which was supposed to be a well built 383 …….motor was shot….. It wasn’t even a 383. I got screwed…. but taught me a lesson! (July 10) I then pick up a 468 out of a running truck which I am in the process of building it into a airboat motor. (November 10 ) I have been running the rebuilt zz4 since October. These freaking airboats will make you spend money one way or another. Anyhoo I had the zz4 rebuilt and change from the stock intake to a edelbrock intake and had the intake and the heads worked on and it made the motor come alive. I have my prop set on 3 at 5150 rpms. All the changes everyone help me with on the boat a appreciate it. The boat performs better. I finally got my cruise rpms down to where I need them. Thanks again to SA.

Oh yea I finish the camoclad too…
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Post by Maxx121 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:08 pm

Turned out really nice!! Makes me want to camo mine! :D
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Post by SwampMatt » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:56 pm

nice looking boat!

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