ELECTROAIR INGNITION

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ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby BIGBADWOLF » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:41 pm

hey everyone ... a friend of mine that has a A/V 540 that injected has ran into a problem with his inner mag bearin going out and trashin the case in front i know what we gota do to fix it but thats not the question...... we were thinkin about running the electroair ignition system on his motor witch blocks off mag hole and uses a crank trigger on fly wheel so splitting the case was not nesasary ... to fix unless we went to mags ...anyways has any one tried this system and does it work like it says for $1592.00 seems like the way to go but wanted some opions ...on getin system wet with rain or battery failure do to alt...was guna run double battery now... i love the veriable timming it uses ...hope to see what yall think and i appericiate the good help in advance thanks BIGBADWOLF:)

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby Tony480 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:43 pm

Get with gka0540 on here (Gary armstrong) he is using a kit on his motors.And from everyone I talked to they say it is bad ass.Charles Morehead has one on his 540.I belive his are an electro motive.

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Postby Bubba » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:45 pm

Its awsome. No problems with the rain yet. Gary Armstrong can beat that price a little and it comes with all brackets and plates. I would call him.
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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby gchuckie » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:51 pm

They defiantly put out some fire have around 30 hrs on mine and love it so far.I have the electrio air mine is on a av 540 motor fires right up.for me I have fuel injection so the battery was not to much of a issue. Jd in Melbourne can hook you up also.

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Postby Cody Alvarez » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:52 pm

Defiantly give Gary Armstrong a call I'm running one of his systems and it's really nice and clean.

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby BIGBADWOLF » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:56 pm

THANKS EVERYONE QUICK RESPONCE ... whats garys number please i have jd,s number hes awsome guy but garys the person who does them thatswho i need to talk to ...

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Postby StrokiN&SmokiN » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:02 pm

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby BIGBADWOLF » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:05 pm

awsome thanks everyone

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby HAMMERHEAD » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:06 pm

YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A GOOD BATTERY AND CHARGING SYSTEM! THE COBTROL BOXES ARE KNOWN TO GIVE PROBLEMS AS WELL, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THEM FOR A RIDE BOAT. JMO.

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Postby Cody Alvarez » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:10 pm

We are all running electromotive xdi and I have personally 25 hrs on mine with no problems with buddy that have 100hrs+ with no problems.

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Postby Quick Draw » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:13 pm

What's the bad about being on a ride boat? I've been looking into it getting it.

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Postby hogdoggin » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:14 pm

wolf i told paul about it a couple days ago. Sent him pics of the ones gary has done and also i have gave him Garys number. :dontknow:

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby HAMMERHEAD » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:22 pm

25 HRS. ? IT AINT EVEN BROKE IN. LOL. IVE SEEN A FEW GO BAD, BUT THATS JUST MY EXPERIENCE WITH THEM OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, NOT THE XDI BOXES THOUGH. I DO KNOW I HAD AN ALTERNATOR ISSUE THIS WEEKEND ON THE RIDE BOAT AND WOULD HAVE HAD TO HEAD BACK TO THE RAMP IF I HAD THE ELECTRONIC IGNITION BUT WITH THE MAGS IT WASNT AN ISSUE JUST KEPT ON RIDING. HAVE HAD ALOT OF BATTERY ISSUES WITH THE ELECTROAIR ON THE RACE BOAT AND TURNS OUT TO BE A PAIN IN THE AZZ, WOULDNT RUN IT ON THE RACE BOAT IF IT WERNET FOR THE ABILITY TO RETARD THE TIMING FOR THE NITROUS. AGAIN JUST OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER. IF YOU ASKED ME 4 YEARS AGO HOW I FELT ABOUT IT I WOULD HAVE THE SAME OPINION AS YOU GUYS. HOPE YALL HAVE BETTER LUCK!

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby LIL Maddog » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:16 pm

I run the electomotive setup that Abner makes. It is smoother, more sensitive, and exacting than the mags ever dreamed about being. I absolutely love mine and wouldn't go back. The timing box is in a dry box so that isn't an issue. I don't know Gary so i can't speak about his work, but i would get in touch with Abner. Oh and if you do end up running it, install the MAP sensor like i did (most people don't) it was the best thing i did for the system. Without that sensor you aren't utilizing near the full potential of the system.

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Postby Whitebear » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:50 pm

Jus y'all remember about giving out on the forum, any numbers other than work or business numbers. Anything not a business number MUST NOT be posted. Use PM.

Not slamming anyone, just remember lots of families with small kids etc. Don't wan't info out in public for safety reasons. Thats why its a rule here, not to make things harder.

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby BIGBADWOLF » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:55 pm

thanks yea john... paul told me u talked to him i think for his issue its the best thing for him ... i also told him he needs extra battery for alt screw up cause if you need it it will probly fail...such is life but thanks for honest opinions ...im building a drybox to put unit in under seat so no worries there..hopefully we can get my buddie back on water asap...

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby TIGO541 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:29 am

Electromotive all tha way!!! Ive got 60hrs on mine and love it. Im with ya RuaGator, im running the MAP sensor also, it added a gal per hr on my boat when i installed it! Im running 25deg Initial with 10deg advance to 3k and retard to 25deg at WOT on 15lbs boost. Its responsive as hell too :twisted: What are you running?
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Postby Ruagatr » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:42 am

25 initial, 10 on top, no retard since no nos or boost. It is a very big difference over the s-1200 mags we had before. The idle quality is amazing and so is the throttle response. The Electroair Electramotive system sold by Abner at Keener's machine shop in WPB is excellent.

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby happy harold » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:22 am

rode with a guy with an 8 cyl gpu with a chevvy hei. ran fine. rode about 40 miles. shut down many times for cool aid. no failures.

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby mwood7800 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:14 am

how about some numbers, just a ballpark figure for a 540? $500,$1000,$1500?

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby Ruagatr » Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:22 am

On a Lycoming gearbox setup for a six cylinder---which is a different triggering setup than the 4 cylinder, I would estimate 1300.00.

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby Big Casino » Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:39 am

Maddog(s) ... if cost wasn't a consideration, would you say that the performance gains you've seen with an electronic ignition are reason enough to move away from properly working Mags?
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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby Ruagatr » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:29 pm

From our standpoint yes for these reasons. First, no maintenance on the ignition basically forever. Second, the ignition is hotter than hell and fully adjustable. On our boat, it is making a palpable difference. You can feel it and hear the difference and the idle quality is superb. Throttle response is awesome...I have a spare module (275.00) ready to plug in if it fails. So for our needs, it is excellent.

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby Quick Draw » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:54 pm

I don't know that I would put that on a aircraft boat I mean how dependable do you think it is ? Ruagator you just said you got a spare how many people run around with spare mags in the front of the boat ? My point is why mess with something that has been proven that it works . All it takes is a low battery an your a siting duck.

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Re: ELECTROAIR INGNITION

Postby Ruagatr » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:10 pm

Well the FAA certifies it for aircraft so that's what they think of it. Magnetos are great, and because you always pay for two of them, i.e. you always carry a backup mag, mine is no different. Except mine never needs to be touched and yours begin to fail with every closing of the points as they spark. It's all about choices...

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