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my rudder stick is out of EMT 1 inch. Has pillow blocks with nylon inserts.
Drilled hole for cotter pin either side of block... Makes it weak.

This is the second time broken.

Are there pillow blocks where I can make the stick out of 1 inch pipe instead of 1 inch EMT? Something stronger for sure.

I had a one seat top driver and widened it to two. Had to rebend the stick so it is probably partly due to angles and ergonomics when you have to push hard on the rudder under power, that it gets weak and cracks.

Thoughts welcome.

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Make it out of 1" rigid pipe its thicker then emt
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Make it out of stainless. Won't ever have to worry about it.

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You build it right and there's no reason emt won't work. You got issues if you keep breaking it.

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All of mine has been met never a problem no matter what u use gotta be built right I've always used 1" at bottom 3/4 top with 1/2 bracing they make locks for 1" EMT WITH SET SCREWS NO NEED TO DRILL INTO THE EMT
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There's a stop with a set screw that your supposed to use . It's a donut made out of steel with an Alan head bolt
Get 2 and slide one against each pillow block bushing and tighten the Alan screw and your done .
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Bridge it. Strong as hell! :thumbleft:

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is 1 inch pipe same OD as 1 inch EMT?

It is bridged basically, if we are on the same page.

Not aware of the collars. Not that many boats here in town and this is the way it was when we bought it.

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im not not familiar with emt a whole lot. now pipe I am. pipe is measured technically
off the id. you can get a 1 inch od pipe tho. ck out mcmastercarr.com for shaft collars.
the one with a 1 inchi.d for 2.54 would be ideal.
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Hell , you can use hose clamps also . Seen it many times and done it myself too
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rost495,
Go to a scrapyard or your local machine shop look for some pipe laying around that will fit your emt snug. I cut my about 2" long with 2 set screws and loctite, I put them on both sides of my block and good to go, that keeps the stick from going side to side.

But since you changed your seating arrangement I'd just build a new steering stick for the new seating arrangement and not worry about.
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rost495 wrote:is 1 inch pipe same OD as 1 inch EMT?

It is bridged basically, if we are on the same page.

Not aware of the collars. Not that many boats here in town and this is the way it was when we bought it.
no its not the same and just call around to panther or even ebay they sell them diamond back doesnt stock the lock rings for emt no more

another idea is the leave the end longer maybe 1 1/2 " weld the end up with a fat weld with a big washer it wont slide out that way
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I made a couple of lock rings out of 3/8" flat stock aluminum. Just used a hole saw to cut out two, 2-1/4" circles. Put those circles in a vise the used a 1" hole saw for my pipe. Drilled out 3/16" holes, then tapped. Bought a couple 3/16" set screws and viola.

Note: I have 3/4 EMT, the O.D. is 15/16", therefor the 1" hole. Tried to upload picture and its too big. I may take the time to resize it, I think you probably get the idea though from all the good previous posts.

GTO sells these on their website for 1" EMT, I bought them by accident.
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Collars I can figure, was guessing that radiator clamps could work too instead of a hole and a cotter pin.

but the fact we bend 1 inch EMT all the time to place it in projects, still bothers me.

Need to find a pillow block that would take 1 inch pipe and go from there. Thats the part that bends.

Will be welding it back today and run it a while before figuring this all out.

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As a simple FYI... I put the 1 inch EMT back today, but happened to try something.... Found a piece of 3/4 Galv pipe, that looked like it would almost fit. And it did, excepting for the seam burr inside the EMT.. So I took a grinder and ground off most of the galvinizing and some pipe on the 32 inch piece, managed to weld the pipe inside a short EMT stub, had to tap it in wiht a mallet. And then drove the new piece of 29 inch EMT over the pipe. Had drilled a few holes in the EMT, and spot welded those to the pipe, and then the butt weld on the 2 pieces of EMT penetrated the pipe also. And then just welded the long end all around to mate the pipe and emt together and ground off the excess.

Should never bend or break next to the pillow block now. And bought a couple of EMT connectors, will grind out the inside stop ridge and use them as stops either side the pillow block.

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