Francis Taylor hull request

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Francis Taylor hull request

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Around what year was the last Taylor hull built? I understand his riveted hull design is carried on by current builders today, I'm just curious when Taylor himself (or his shop) stopped building hulls. Thanks, and any pics of true Taylor's would be appeciated.

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I was told he was building them right up to the time he passed. Mine is a 73
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What year did he pass?

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He passed away in 1982

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Anybody know who was building the riveted hulls for Broward/Dade County Fish & Game in the 80's? I just picked up a project boat at auction from the Florida Forest Service, and they said it was donated to them by Fish & Game about 15 years ago. It still has their insignia on the rudders. I know they had 11 or so Thurmans built in the 90's, but this hull is titled as an '89 and Im pretty sure it's not a Thurman. 12x6'10 half deck with a backing plate; the guy from the Forest Service said he thought it was a Taylor, but since Taylor passed in '82 I doubt that. Anyone know who was building the warden boats in '89?

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It might be a Colinger, I think Jammie built some government boats. Got any pictures?

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While on the topic of Taylor hulls...I also have a hull that is in question of the builder?? Taylor, Collinger or just a copy of either? The rear looks similar to the Taylor? I believe the title says home-built, but you know that goes with Airboats. Any expertise will be appreciated !!
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Gary S wrote:It might be a Colinger, I think Jammie built some government boats. Got any pictures?
Here you go thanks. She looks rough from sitting 15 years, but the hull is actually in great shape; no corrosion, dents, or damage anywhere. The boat is built well with 5 stringers 12" separated and a backing plate that goes across all stringers from the bulkhead to the transom. The hull under the engine stand is fully boxed from the transom to the bulkhead to the stringers to the deck with aluminum plate; it's definetly built strong.
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man the stories that old hull could tell!! :toothy7:

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Gary S I think you're right, it looks like a Cloninger. Found this pic of a Cloninger in the gallery and it looks to be the same; the transom is identical.
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Seven3 wrote:The boat is built well with 5 stringers 12" separated and a backing plate that goes across all stringers from the bulkhead to the transom.
My error, the backing plate doesn't end at the bulkhead, it goes about a foot beyond it. Once the plate ends the runners bend down and are riveted directly to the bottom sheets, which I'm told is a characteristic of Cloninger's older boats. Looks like I have it confirmed as a Cloninger, thanks for everyone's help.
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Seven3 does the sheet of aluminum run underneath the stringers or is it cut to fit between them ?
I'm asking out of curiosity because on my boat has the same thing as well but I am not sure who built
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Cloninger put stringers in a press to kink the relief of the backing plate.
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0360 the backing plate runs under all of the stringers, then the stringers bend down to contact the bottom sheets where the backing plate ends.

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John Fenner wrote:Cloninger put stringers in a press to kink the relief of the backing plate.
Yep, that's how this hull is built. Thanks again for the help.

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Just out of curiosity (not that I'm considering doing it) but both Seven3 and John Fenner know my sled. It has poly on it and the poly is in good shape (it was on when I bought it). Should it ever need replacing, I don't know how you could possibly seal all the holes and reinstall new poly. Is it possible to replace the bottom of a riveted hull without screwing up the paint on the rest of the boat or would that be the penalty paid for drilling all those holes in an otherwise perfectly good boat?
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Replace the bottom? Or fill the holes to lose the poly? Or to replace the poly?
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Re read your ? It can be done only if the bulkhead is removed and fuel tank removed if there is sufficient room to get tank out but it is a tough job
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Did some tear down. The hull is built pretty stout: .125 bottom, backing plates, and the T- bar stringers that run under the engine stand are 1/4 instead of the usual 3/16. After taking the rear deck off I noticed there are also backing plates on both sides of the large center backing plate, to contour to the chines. So with a better look and the deck off, is Cloninger still the likely builder?

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Here is one of the two smaller backing plates that contour on the chines. The center backing plate runs between the 5 stringers from the transom to about 18" past the bulkhead.

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Here's the 'pressed' stringers where the center backing plate ends.

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Jamie built a tank to run the rocks west of town and south of Loop Road. Poly wouldn't stand a chance going where that boat was built to run.

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Does it have stainless on the bottom?
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Gary S wrote:Jamie built a tank to run the rocks west of town and south of Loop Road. Poly wouldn't stand a chance going where that boat was built to run.
This boat wasn't built to run the rocks, it was a Broward Game and Fish boat as far as I was told. Did he build any poly boats? Does the rest of the structure look like his?

I already have a complete Benny Webb boat so this is just a little project that I bought cheap...so it doesn't necessarily matter to me who built it; I would just like to try and figure it out so that I'm not calling it something it is not. I highly doubt the state would've bought a hull from just anybody though. Thanks for the help.
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glades cat wrote:Does it have stainless on the bottom?
No sir, I was told it was a Broward boat. No need for stainless up here. Did the old GFC boats run stainless down by you guys? It's .125 bottom with backing plates and poly. It still has all of the Game and Fish decals and inventory serial numbers on the hull, plus I bought it from a state auction, so I know it really was a GFC boat.

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Cloninger did that to all boats with backup plates on last picture. Not all had the full gussets from transom to bulkhead but this one does.
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Seven3 wrote:
glades cat wrote:Does it have stainless on the bottom?
No sir, I was told it was a Broward boat. No need for stainless up here. Did the old GFC boats run stainless down by you guys? It's .125 bottom with backing plates and poly. It still has all of the Game and Fish decals and inventory serial numbers on the hull, plus I bought it from a state auction, so I know it really was a GFC boat.

looks something like my project same homebuilt and 125 bottom T-6 do not know the specs but rounded 90 bends in the bottom, top rear skin 2024 T3 .063

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