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Nav Lights

Postby MrTodd2U » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:05 pm

Does anyone know where I can buy these?
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Re: Nav Lights

Postby Cherpa » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:09 pm

Todd, those are marker lights for trucks. You'll have to buy the green lens separate. Why not use the LED's that Donnie used on his boat. Advanced Auto has them is sets of two. I put a set on Erica's boat also.

To answer your question direct your looking for this Beehive Clearance/Marker Lamp with Fixed-Angle Mounting Bracket. Grainger has them @ $5.00 +/-. You can also check Amazon. Just ask your wife, she'll know how to order them for you thru Amazon (all wives do).
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Re: Nav Lights

Postby Olf Art » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:34 pm

Rural King or Tractor Supply may have them ....... put LED bulbs in them and you're done.
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Re: Nav Lights

Postby John C » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:50 pm

napa auto parts also sells them. but I would go with the led too.

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Re: Nav Lights

Postby nomad41 » Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:01 pm

Just so you know those are not legal running lights for a boat.
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Re: Nav Lights

Postby Olf Art » Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:38 pm

nomad41 wrote:Just so you know those are not legal running lights for a boat.

Because ..... ?
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Re: Nav Lights

Postby Cherpa » Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:55 pm

Ya ? Why ?
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Re: Nav Lights

Postby lyc200 » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:04 pm

Have the same ones on mine for twenty five years.never had a problem.

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Re: Nav Lights

Postby terrible ted » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:42 pm

just so you know I bought the same thing from boat company. Was also told by an fwc officer that my red and green glow sticks will work as nav lights. this is what I find?


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Re: Nav Lights

Postby PeaRiverOpossum » Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:11 pm

Cherpa wrote:Ya ? Why ?


They technically have to be USCG approved to be used as nav lights. USCG has very strict qualifications and I'm sure politics involved. Since the new LED craze we all run unapproved nav lights. IMO you just open yourself up to liability if an accident occurs.(also why it's hard to find uscg approved led nav lights)

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Re: Nav Lights

Postby Comanche-pup » Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:23 pm

Or you just get LED nav lights, the sell them everywhere


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Re: Nav Lights

Postby tugchief » Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:24 pm

there not approved because they do not say uscg rated for 2 nautical miles and do not have a 120 degree angle of view facing fwd from center line of vessel.... but pls be aware that a green or red or white as well amber colored glow whip or tribal whip etc is also not allowed as it interfears with nav lights.... but most of fwc officers dont know the correct laws of navigation lights... hell most oof the uscg guys or girls dont... i know this as i hold 1600t master of towing unlimited lic and use it daily well 30 days at a time running a 700'/ 260,000 bbl oil and chem barge.... put rest asured when you get pulled the nav lights are the last on there list of tickets there going to write.... jmo

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Re: Nav Lights

Postby nomad41 » Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:40 pm

Lights have to be Coast Guard approved. They are rated for how far you can see them to size of the boat.
They come in 1,2 or 3 nautical miles

Kenny. There are a ton of LED navy lights available. You need the right supplier
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Re: Nav Lights

Postby Olf Art » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:12 pm

Love LED lights ...... low battery drain and weatherproof. With the lights shown in this thread you'll want them as far outboard on each side as you can without affecting your night vision because in addition to showing your position they also give others a relative idea of the size of your vessel.

The white position light up on the prop cage is also a huge safety item. That little white light could keep you from gettin run over sometime by some idiot who's drivin way too fast at night.
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Re: Nav Lights

Postby Hardtail » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:20 pm

Those are not approved because they can be seen from 360* and give the oncoming traffic the wrong signal, the port side has to show red ONLY, and starboard has to show green ONLY, if you can see both red and green on the same side, traffic can't know whether to give way or if they have the right of way.
The white light is the one required to be seen for 2 NM for boats under 5 meters.
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Re: Nav Lights

Postby AirRanger » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:27 pm

Hardtail wrote:Those are not approved because they can be seen from 360* and give the oncoming traffic the wrong signal, the port side has to show red ONLY, and starboard has to show green ONLY, if you can see both red and green on the same side, traffic can't know whether to give way or if they have the right of way.

Not to be tit for tat, but the way the ones in the picture are mounted they are not visible 360*. If they were upright or down facing I would see your point.
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Re: Nav Lights

Postby Hardtail » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:43 pm

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Hardtail wrote:Those are not approved because they can be seen from 360* and give the oncoming traffic the wrong signal, the port side has to show red ONLY, and starboard has to show green ONLY, if you can see both red and green on the same side, traffic can't know whether to give way or if they have the right of way.

Not to be tit for tat, but the way the ones in the picture are mounted they are not visible 360*. If they were upright or down facing I would see your point.



True enough, but still not approved, in an accident, the other guy will say different, maybe the screw came loose and the green turned the other way, so they thought they had the right of way, it's your boat and if you want to be correct and leave no room for error then use the ones that are approved, which are directional for a reason. Before you ask I took the US Coast Guard class and was very good information, Just because you know the rules doesn't mean the other guy does, so they teach be safe and always be ready to give way before it's too late.

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Re: Nav Lights

Postby HuntingBigun » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:49 pm

These are the ones Diamondback uses made by Livorsi Marine

http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/led.htm

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Re: Nav Lights

Postby Olf Art » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:37 pm

HuntingBigun wrote:These are the ones Diamondback uses made by Livorsi Marine

http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/led.htm

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Interesting ...... mint and orange aren't USCG approved either. Just sayin !! :scratch:
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Re: Nav Lights

Postby HuntingBigun » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:55 pm

Olf , they are red, taking pics of red leds are very hard trust me when I turn on all my leds that are red the pictures do not look the same unless I use my Nikon and really work the settings lmao
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Re: Nav Lights

Postby terrible ted » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:48 am

Hardtail wrote:Those are not approved because they can be seen from 360* and give the oncoming traffic the wrong signal, the port side has to show red ONLY, and starboard has to show green ONLY, if you can see both red and green on the same side, traffic can't know whether to give way or if they have the right of way.
The white light is the one required to be seen for 2 NM for boats under 5 meters.



Remember the angle is mostly placement were they are on the boat. Read the link I posted. If I see both your coming at me.

I also saw a boat this week end with a mounted bar light running the river you could not see his running light at all. He said he never got a ticket for it and did not know it was illegal. supper bright.

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Re: Nav Lights

Postby xranger22 » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:04 am

I believe that Schmidt Aviation has them.

The issue with those for front nav lights is that each color is seed further than 115 degrees from the bow center. Y ou could tape them or paint the lenses to allow for that. You also should not be able to see the opposite color, other than when facing the boat from the front.

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Re: Nav Lights

Postby John C » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:36 am

just google Led nav lights. there are lots available. I just bought a pair from amazon on line. They were at my front door in a few days, Coast Guard approved.

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Re: Nav Lights

Postby PeaRiverOpossum » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:51 pm

nomad41 wrote:Lights have to be Coast Guard approved. They are rated for how far you can see them to size of the boat.
They come in 1,2 or 3 nautical miles

Kenny. There are a ton of LED navy lights available. You need the right supplier

It's been a while since I've looked. Remember....I don't even have a boat right now:cry:
Olf Art wrote:Love LED lights ...... low battery drain and weatherproof. With the lights shown in this thread you'll want them as far outboard on each side as you can without affecting your night vision because in addition to showing your position they also give others a relative idea of the size of your vessel.

The white position light up on the prop cage is also a huge safety item. That little white light could keep you from gettin run over sometime by some idiot who's drivin way too fast at night.



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Re: Nav Lights

Postby PeaRiverOpossum » Fri Nov 13, 2015 5:14 pm

I found these if anyone wants this style and don't want to spend over $100 for a set of bow lights. They are not USCG approved but are built to the same specs. I have bought from these people before and they are good to work with. I remember when he was developing them. Just now remembered to look
http://www.oznium.com/marine-navigation-light
What is everyone doing for the 360° white light?


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