What aluminum hull to buy?

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What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by jeepinocala1111 » Tue May 17, 2016 4:23 pm

I am wanting a light strong aluminum hull I have two quotes one a bit high not sure who to go with? This is my second aluminum hull the first was 20 years ago. 14x8 for a 520 conversion.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by captrndy » Tue May 17, 2016 4:55 pm

I miss my old Hamant!!! It ain't the cheapest, but one of the best!!! It was 13'6" x7'6" with a real 520. It was an ultralight. Pics in my gallery.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by flcracker9 » Tue May 17, 2016 8:09 pm

Posting what your intended use will be would help. Will you use it in deep water, do you plan on running dry much?
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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by jeepinocala1111 » Tue May 17, 2016 9:09 pm

flcracker9 wrote:Posting what your intended use will be would help. Will you use it in deep water, do you plan on running dry much?
It will be in shallow and some deep lake George and orange lake mostly. I will run dry. More of a ride boat. I am figuring 1/4 poly.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by chases pee paw » Tue May 17, 2016 9:26 pm

alumitech should fit the bill nicely.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by jopete » Wed May 18, 2016 12:25 am

whichever hull you go with, just be sure to have a transom high enough not to swamp you in the deep if you lose power. seen way to many people sink because they have low transom hulls.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by kwanjangnihm » Wed May 18, 2016 6:04 am

since I'm spending your money :D how about a hamant ultra lite or mamba hull?
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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by jeepinocala1111 » Wed May 18, 2016 6:53 am

jopete wrote:whichever hull you go with, just be sure to have a transom high enough not to swamp you in the deep if you lose power. seen way to many people sink because they have low transom hulls.
Great point. One of the reasons I want aluminum is they are supposed to be lighter stronger and float higher.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by terrible ted » Wed May 18, 2016 7:56 am

Well I would not go 14 x8 because that's what I have 14 x8 with a 540. I would drop down to 13 max. As for brand like Diamond back, Alumitech, Hamant, I don't see much difference.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by jeepinocala1111 » Wed May 18, 2016 8:57 am

terrible ted wrote:Well I would not go 14 x8 because that's what I have 14 x8 with a 540. I would drop down to 13 max. As for brand like Diamond back, Alumitech, Hamant, I don't see much difference.
The 14x8 is to large?

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Post by CarMotorBarge » Wed May 18, 2016 9:25 am

You are putting an A/C engine on it.
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Post by jeepinocala1111 » Wed May 18, 2016 10:56 am

CarMotorBarge wrote:You are putting an A/C engine on it.
Yes so you think a 14x8 is to large for an account engine? The motor is pretty light and plenty of power if the aluminum hulls are lighter then it should be pretty dam good. Are the aluminum hulls heavier than the fiberglass?

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by One Eyed Gator » Wed May 18, 2016 12:12 pm

Got a buddy with a 13x8 alumitec has 22" sides at least with 0470-13 Lacey E. 520 conversion. Boat will go anywhere you point it and has 1/4" poly.

I like alumintec (5052,5058), hamant (6061) and P. Vento's (6061)Mamba hulls got my attention as well. Even like some of the hulls Dyna marine builds.

There was a gentleman Jim webb he had an open riveted scorpion (they use 5000 series aluminum) hull the was very light and handle very well. Like I said before My buddy Crazty Frog on SA has a 125 on a scorpion alittle under powered but a blast to drive. Take a little practice to drive a sled. His size hull 12x7-6 with a deeper transom and a 520 conversion would be fun and fast. Almost dangerous.

If I had the money I think I would look at benny webb or al david hull in may be a 3/4" style hull and go 12-6 by 7-8 or 8' with a slightly deeper transom then you normally see. It would float like a cork.

No way I would build over 13' for a go fast play boat. Once you get over that length, the handling is very different no more sports car feel, if you know what I mean.

Over 13' is a carmotor fishing boat.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by CarMotorBarge » Wed May 18, 2016 1:13 pm

jeepinocala1111 wrote:
CarMotorBarge wrote:You are putting an A/C engine on it.
Yes so you think a 14x8 is to large for an account engine? The motor is pretty light and plenty of power if the aluminum hulls are lighter then it should be pretty dam good. Are the aluminum hulls heavier than the fiberglass?
My opinion is 13 foot max for an A/C boat. Aluminum is stronger than fiberglass for the same weight.
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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by terrible ted » Wed May 18, 2016 1:14 pm

I agree my 14x8 started life as a car motor gear box. Its a great deep water boat gator hunting or fishing boat but not a go anywhere its close but 300 hp is not enough. Its also not an ultralight so i am running with the weight of an extra person all the time.

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Post by jeepinocala1111 » Wed May 18, 2016 1:57 pm

One Eyed Gator wrote:Got a buddy with a 13x8 alumitec has 22" sides at least with 0470-13 Lacey E. 520 conversion. Boat will go anywhere you point it and has 1/4" poly.

I like alumintec (5052,5058), hamant (6061) and P. Vento's (6061)Mamba hulls got my attention as well. Even like some of the hulls Dyna marine builds.

There was a gentleman Jim webb he had an open riveted scorpion (they use 5000 series aluminum) hull the was very light and handle very well. Like I said before My buddy Crazty Frog on SA has a 125 on a scorpion alittle under powered but a blast to drive. Take a little practice to drive a sled. His size hull 12x7-6 with a deeper transom and a 520 conversion would be fun and fast. Almost dangerous.

If I had the money I think I would look at benny webb or al david hull in may be a 3/4" style hull and go 12-6 by 7-8 or 8' with a slightly deeper transom then you normally see. It would float like a cork.

No way I would build over 13' for a go fast play boat. Once you get over that length, the handling is very different no more sports car feel, if you know what I mean.

Over 13' is a carmotor fishing boat.

Just my humble opinion.
Thank you for this info I will look into all of these options.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by Tony480 » Wed May 18, 2016 2:43 pm

13'x7'6" Hamant is the ticket. I love my Hamant. Wade,Kevin and all the guy's there do top notch work. 6061 t6 and you'll have no regrets. Remember you get what you pay for.

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Post by keebo » Wed May 18, 2016 3:40 pm

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by GeeLeDouche » Wed May 18, 2016 5:10 pm

If money was no object, I would buy a P vento hull. I also really like the dynamarine hull. That would probably be more realistic if I ever got another hull. you will likely get a lot of different opinions and there is no wrong answer. Its all preference.
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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by g1moore1 » Wed May 18, 2016 5:46 pm

Diamondback recommended a 13 X 7'6 ultralite for my 520 conversion. Gonna get the entire boat built around my motor. Single side by side operator with center console with a triple front seat. Stainless rigging. I hope it runs like the wind.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by jopete » Wed May 18, 2016 8:58 pm

my 12x7 hull looks to be a classic airboats copy. tall transom and will roll just about anywhere with a old gpu on it. when i dent in the sides i just beat it out with a rubber mallet. good safe boat.
ever since i put a jack in it to round the bottom it has become my favorite boat for me and one other person. 3 people and it's a turd.

a Hammet with tall transom is on my bucket list. if i ever get my deckover sold i will start saving up for one.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by jeepinocala1111 » Wed May 18, 2016 9:03 pm

g1moore1 wrote:Diamondback recommended a 13 X 7'6 ultralite for my 520 conversion. Gonna get the entire boat built around my motor. Single side by side operator with center console with a triple front seat. Stainless rigging. I hope it runs like the wind. It's a shame I can't find one a bit more local.

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Actually Diamondback gave me a fast quote the lowest so far and man they are prompt when requesting information so far less am leaning this way.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by jopete » Wed May 18, 2016 10:03 pm

get whatever u really want. if you want one thing and buy another you will never be totally satisfied.

guy down the road from me just had a dimondback built. i think it's a 13x7.5 or 13x7. strong brand new [from jr] 0540 on it. tall sides and tall transom. all powdercoated rigging and not a scratch on the hull. bueatiful boat. runs the levee ok. i wouldn't want to go any bigger on the hull.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by jeepinocala1111 » Thu May 19, 2016 7:47 am

jopete wrote:get whatever u really want. if you want one thing and buy another you will never be totally satisfied.

guy down the road from me just had a dimondback built. i think it's a 13x7.5 or 13x7. strong brand new [from jr] 0540 on it. tall sides and tall transom. all powdercoated rigging and not a scratch on the hull. bueatiful boat. runs the levee ok. i wouldn't want to go any bigger on the hull.
Well one good thing I have learned is to stick with 13' and that there are wider then 13x4 being made so this is all really great information I am very glad I posted cause I would have bought a 14x8 sounds to heavy and large for my aplication.

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Re: What aluminum hull to buy?

Post by kwanjangnihm » Thu May 19, 2016 8:20 am

Tony480 wrote:13'x7'6" Hamant is the ticket. I love my Hamant. Wade,Kevin and all the guy's there do top notch work. 6061 t6 and you'll have no regrets. Remember you get what you pay for.
Tony are you running poly on your new hull? if so what size?
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