Mufflers on Orange lake.

jeepinocala1111 · Post by **jeepinocala1111** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:41 pm

This weekend another Air boater without mufflers. I do not want my air boating rights taken away cause someone does not want to wait until their boat is completely finished to run it on our lake. Open headers are not allowed on Orange lake. There is a small but VERY powerful crowd around Orange lake that will try to shut us down for good if we keep allowing people to run their boat without mufflers.

there are several people watching to see if this individual comes back without mufflers. If you are this person do not bring your boat back until it is correct. It sucks that I had to post this but I have a lot in my boat and have been preparing to fight the curfew and it will be a complete waste if this is going on. Anyone on here including myself would help if needed to put a set on your boat if you do not know how so ask before ruining it for all of us.

Shippee123 · Post by **Shippee123** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:10 pm

well put!

Full Rut · Post by **Full Rut** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:19 pm

One dumbass would screw it up for all of us, maybe he will show up saturday for the ride and we can educate him!

loudmouse · Post by **loudmouse** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:27 pm

I see boats all over with no mufflers.

jeepinocala1111 · Post by **jeepinocala1111** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:44 pm

loudmouse wrote:I see boats all over with no mufflers.

This one only had open headers. We need to start telling people that we see have no mufflers to put it back on the trailer.

clamped · Post by **clamped** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:55 pm

Jeep, did you see the guy?

jeepinocala1111 · Post by **jeepinocala1111** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:11 pm

clamped wrote:Jeep, did you see the guy?

Yes, Saturday and figured nothing of it cause they went out and right back in so I figured it was just a test drive but then my neighbor said he was out Sunday for a while. As long as he doesn't come back until he has mufflers I am fine but any more and I guess I will be the bad guy to tell them to leave. The problem is I am going to make a go at fighting this illegal curfew law and I dont need people causing crap to ruin a case.

clamped · Post by **clamped** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:31 pm

What makes the curfew illegal?

dudda bug · Post by **dudda bug** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:46 pm

does this mean ya'll aren't running ac or race boats on orange lake any more

jeepinocala1111 · Post by **jeepinocala1111** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:57 pm

dudda bug wrote:does this mean ya'll aren't running ac or race boats on orange lake any more

Ac motors are quieter then car engines. They passed a curfew few years back cause of noise so to not go any further we are trying to do whats right. This group has alot of power and money we do not want it to get worse while working on a solution.

AirRanger · Post by **AirRanger** » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:39 pm

dudda bug wrote:does this mean ya'll aren't running ac or race boats on orange lake any more

What does running ac have to do with not having mufflers? For anyone not running proper mufflers is simply a selfish act only causing harm to ALL of the airboat community themselves included. Exception to true race boats at the proper times.

chuckitt@earthlink.net · Post by **chuckitt@earthlink.net** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:16 am

What is wrong with making race boats have mufflers? We were forced to put mufflers on race go-karts in 1963 and we were across the road from the airport.
Thanks, Chuck

jeepinocala1111 · Post by **jeepinocala1111** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:31 pm

chuckitt@earthlink.net wrote:What is wrong with making race boats have mufflers? We were forced to put mufflers on race go-karts in 1963 and we were across the road from the airport.
Thanks, Chuck

No we do not want to have any race boats have to have the same requirements as regular boats but yes again they can not go on regular lakes. The law states mufflers and a flag I am going to do everything I can to make sure people on our local lakes stick to it and in hope we can get rid of curfews that were never needed. I completely blame our selves for the curfew we all no better then to run anything that loud especially at night it only pisses the wrong crowd off that has no problem spending money to shut us down and we are to dam cheap to spend the money to fight it.

clamped · Post by **clamped** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:56 pm

Mufflers would definitely help but I don't think you are gonna be able to quiet an airboat down enough to make those people happy to lift the curfew, in fact you might push the wrong buttons and they might shut it down completely if they are as powerful as you described earlier

BUSHHOG85 · Post by **BUSHHOG85** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:11 pm

jeepinocala1111 wrote:
loudmouse wrote:I see boats all over with no mufflers.
This one only had open headers. We need to start telling people that we see have no mufflers to put it back on the trailer.

That's exactly what you need to do is to tell them to load it back up! Then once you wake up from being knocked out call the sheriff or fwc and let them handle it like their paid to do

scrambletown · Post by **scrambletown** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:23 pm

BUSHHOG85 wrote:
jeepinocala1111 wrote:
loudmouse wrote:I see boats all over with no mufflers.
This one only had open headers. We need to start telling people that we see have no mufflers to put it back on the trailer.
That's exactly what you need to do is to tell them to load it back up! Then once you wake up from being knocked out call the sheriff or fwc and let them handle it like their paid to do

just what I was thinking

Jimmy M. · Post by **Jimmy M.** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:38 pm

clamped wrote:Mufflers would definitely help but I don't think you are gonna be able to quiet an airboat down enough to make those people happy to lift the curfew, in fact you might push the wrong buttons and they might shut it down completely if they are as powerful as you described earlier

I think you hit the nail on the head there clamped. Stir up a hornet's nest and we may end up with something way worse than we already have had placed on us. The enviro's and anti's have major power in alachua county. Since the curfew was put in place there have been some complaints about boats still running at night but for the most part nothing more has been brought up about a more restrictive curfew or outright ban. As much as I'd love to see it gone, It seems like it'd be hard to get it reversed. I run Orange and Lochloosa a lot and purposely built my boat to be quiet because of these issues. Plus I can still sneak around at night in stealth mode and do some frogging without bothering anyone.

Jimmy M. · Post by **Jimmy M.** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:46 pm

.....and no matter how quiet you make an airboat there will be those that will still think they're too loud and want curfews and bans. There's always gonna be the haters....it sucks.

jeepinocala1111 · Post by **jeepinocala1111** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:32 pm

clamped wrote:Mufflers would definitely help but I don't think you are gonna be able to quiet an airboat down enough to make those people happy to lift the curfew, in fact you might push the wrong buttons and they might shut it down completely if they are as powerful as you described earlier

No I plan to fight it but I will be ready 100% for sure.

jeepinocala1111 · Post by **jeepinocala1111** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:34 pm

BUSHHOG85 wrote:
jeepinocala1111 wrote:
loudmouse wrote:I see boats all over with no mufflers.
This one only had open headers. We need to start telling people that we see have no mufflers to put it back on the trailer.
That's exactly what you need to do is to tell them to load it back up! Then once you wake up from being knocked out call the sheriff or fwc and let them handle it like their paid to do

No worries I wont be a jerk about it and nobody's going to fight over it. Hey if we dont work on this then all of us better not be surprised when we are shut down for good.

jeepinocala1111 · Post by **jeepinocala1111** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:38 pm

Jimmy M. wrote:.....and no matter how quiet you make an airboat there will be those that will still think they're too loud and want curfews and bans. There's always gonna be the haters....it sucks.

Curfews and bans are wrong and can be stopped but do not forget the noise db law is statewide and punishable in some very serious ways so stopping the curfews, bans, and discrimination will only fix it for us airboaters that respect others and keep them legal.

pontoon outlaw · Post by **pontoon outlaw** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:57 pm

my Cad 507 is so quiet is sneaky quiet

it scary because them kicker boats don't hear me coming and they just keep fishing then are very surprised when I come around the corner and from their reaction they never heard me coming :

Jimmy M. · Post by **Jimmy M.** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:11 pm

jeepinocala1111 wrote:
Jimmy M. wrote:.....and no matter how quiet you make an airboat there will be those that will still think they're too loud and want curfews and bans. There's always gonna be the haters....it sucks.
Curfews and bans are wrong and can be stopped but do not forget the noise db law is statewide and punishable in some very serious ways so stopping the curfews, bans, and discrimination will only fix it for us airboaters that respect others and keep them legal.

I agree 100% jeep. We all need to be aware of our sound signature and do what we can to minimize it for the future of airboating, especially on populated lake areas like we have here. A few bad apples that want to run around at WFO in people's back yards on the lake at 3 am can definitely ruin things for the rest of us (and basically have...that's why we have a curfew now). I think we all have a duty to run our boats in a respectful manner to insure our future but it's hard to get everyone on the same page it seems unfortunately.

Jimmy M. · Post by **Jimmy M.** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:15 pm

pontoon outlaw wrote: my Cad 507 is so quiet is sneaky quiet it scary because them kicker boats don't hear me coming and they just keep fishing then are very surprised when I come around the corner and from their reaction they never heard me coming :

I've watched your videos and seen pics of your boat pontoon, that boat is a beast! Very impressive....and the fact it does it quietly....even more impressive!