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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by rockyd » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:40 pm

Thanks for the link and it sounds like the gates are already open and it may be quite a while before the water goes down and we get back in 3A.

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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by Scotty1 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:43 am

:rebel: 2.06 feet above regulation now, total BS :rebel:

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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by digginfool » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:30 pm

And how messed up is that? I drew gator tags for WMA-3. :angry5: :angry5: Sure, I can go hunt gators but can't use my airboat. I guess I'm going to have to find someone with a mud boat. That or just hunt from the banks and hope for the best.
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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by Batemaster » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:54 pm

Absolutely ridiculous that they'll let you hunt out of a mud boat and not an airboat. I'm convinced they'll do anything to keep us out.

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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by Black67 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:21 am

More rain coming across the Alley this morning.

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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by Scotty1 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:51 pm

:rebel: It is higher now than it was back in June when all this rain really started in the reservation. At this rate we will never get back in. they say they close it so we don't run the deer off the dry islands and levees , there is not that many deer left down there these days but if they are so worried about them than drain the damn thing.((( OPEN THE RELEAF GATES AND GET THE WATER DOWN))) :rebel:ITS NOT THAT HARD TO FIGURE OUT RAISE THE DAMN GATES

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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by flcracker9 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:18 pm

They don't want to drown that silly Cape Sable Seaside Sparrow in the ENP!!!
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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by Gary S » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:43 am

flcracker9 wrote:They don't want to drown that silly Cape Sable Seaside Sparrow in the ENP!!!
So they will drown everything else.

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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by flcracker9 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:12 am

Gary S wrote:
flcracker9 wrote:They don't want to drown that silly Cape Sable Seaside Sparrow in the ENP!!!
So they will drown everything else.
Yup!!! I actually saw an interview with one official, he said that although the situation was bad for the fur bearing animals, they would eventually recover whereas the sparrow would not. Not to put words in his mouth, but he's implying the other animals are expendable??? Guess he's not looking at it from a deer's perspective!!!
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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by rudee116 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:24 pm

A lot of good the bridge is doing! And they're gonna build another one. So much for restoring the natural flow. All they care about is stealing our money and locking us out of our land/water.
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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by Scotty1 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:01 am

:rebel: At this rate of discharge and with out any rain it will take 95 days to get down to regulation elevation. which is totally BULL SH-T in my opinion :violent1: something has to happen. :rebel:

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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by John Fenner » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:24 am

From my understanding it is the deer headcount on the levees that determines the areas closing regulation.
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Post by lilly-Pad » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:32 am

does anybody have water update on 3A and 3B? I have a buddy who has gator tags for next week but looks like might have to use the jon boat :violent1: :violent1: :slap: I have never riden the open area east of Miami canal what ramps can I use to get in there? Looks like the area might stay closed thru gator season. :violent1:
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Post by peanutbutter kid » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:17 pm

http://www.saj.usace.army.mil/Missions/ ... Deviation/ this is a couple weeks old from sawgrass outlaws fbook but still interesting read....

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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by glades cat » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:04 pm

...and we're caught between a rock and a hard place in releasing water too quickly into our surrounding salt water estuaries.
I get weekly FWC Red Tide advisories in the Gulf...Caloosahatchee waterway is the dumping route.
East coast out St Lucie waterway....Remember the algae problems and massive fish kill a couple years back.
South through the canals into Florida Bay...they're having their own set of problems.
South East out of Miami canal...Biscayne Bay turtle grass is all covered with growth.

High water is high water. We get it. It happens, so do droughts.
The fault is the closures. Let us in. If there are deer to be rescued, we'll do it. Be the eyes and ears and report critical areas needing attention , we'll do it. Pick up Mylar party balloons and other blown-in debris...heck, we do that now. Bag up thrown garbage at the ramps...yea, we do that too.
What happened to the modus operandi of the old Fish and Game Commission? If Tom Shirley could see this from heaven, he'd be shaking his head in disapproval. Thank God there are no tears in heaven.

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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by rudee116 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:23 pm

The closure to airboats is ridiculous. It doesn't even fit their narrative of protecting the deer!!! If the deer are up on the levees, how does it make sense that they will let boats run the canals but not airboats in the marsh? The old rule during high water was fine! Airboats allowed for frogging and gator hunting as long as we stayed away from the islands. WTF made them change that last year??? It's so obvious that they are trying to keep airboats out of there. It's only a matter of time til they keep the water high permanently and lock us out forever.
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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by Scotty1 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:08 am

:rebel: Well the water is just about where it was when they closed and is going down daily. if the rain will hold off would not be surprised if it opened back up in September after the 90 days closure. BUT THAT COULD BE JUST WISHFUL THINKING :rebel: ((stay away rain))

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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by Batemaster » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:54 am

More rain on the way this week unfortunately.

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Post by Scotty1 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:45 pm

:rebel: Eden 14 rain gauge in the res, has shown a steady decline since around August 13th. :rebel:

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Post by MYDIXIEWRECKED » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:25 pm

Scotty1 wrote::rebel: Well the water is just about where it was when they closed and is going down daily. if the rain will hold off would not be surprised if it opened back up in September after the 90 days closure. BUT THAT COULD BE JUST WISHFUL THINKING :rebel: ((stay away rain))
I was told by the FWC that there is no 90 day rule anymore. If the water drops they will open it. No "set amount of time" for it to be closed.
Some friends went out to remove a memorial for a firefighter that was placed out there years ago over the weekend. From what I saw in the pictures, the water isn't too bad. Hopefully it wont be long till its open. Too bad the state wont give us some of our lease money back that we pay for our camps when they prevent access.

As for the deer, they get on the islands that our camps are on and people have a real hard time following the law. They stop at these camps which run the deer back out into the deep water, stressing them when they don't need the added stress.

Any way you look at it, Water Mismanagement is playing mother nature or God and the Park Service not taking water... NO COMMENT. The federal government shouldn't control our state land. They obviously have no clue. Let the water flow as it was intended by nature. A good flush out here and there is a natural thing. Been happening way longer than we have had control of the flow...
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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by Gary S » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:37 am

So now they are building another bridge to not let the water flow under.

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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by glades cat » Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:36 pm

Hey, how about some more water?
Feast or famine.
Drink while the water is flowing.
The dry cycle will come around soon enough.
Patience folks.
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Re: 3A-3B closed ?

Post by Scotty1 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:13 pm

:rebel: Well all this extra rain will probably set us back a couple more months ,this really sucks been to camp ones for 3 days in the last 6 months and now maybe another 2 or 3 months. :violent1: :rebel: Got to find another place to go maybe Kissimmee

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