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New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Capt steve » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:05 pm

I’m surprised no one has mentioned the new Florida requirement to complete an airboat safety course by June or July of this coming year (2019)

I think the coarse will pretty much mirror the DOI coarse. Anyone have any feelings on this. From what I understand if you operate commercially you will need the coarse.

I do this full time for a living so no choice for me or the captains I work with. If I remember someone on this site gives the coarse. Please reach out to me. I’d have three of us and access to a boat.

I don’t mind taking the coarse. I know some of you will disagree but I feel I can always learn something. I just hope that they don’t make it a pain in the ass and also hope it’s not gonna cost me an arm and a leg.

Opinions?

And once again. If you have info on who gives the coarse please pm me.

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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by SWAMPHUNTER45 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:19 pm

If my memory serves me correctly it is "sniper" who is a DOI airboat operations instructor.

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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by sidetracked » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:49 am

I am an instructor, DOI and I am in S. Florida.

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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Usamarinetraining » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:56 pm

Hi I'm Randy Hill and I'm the owner of USA Marine Training. The course that is needed to operate any Airboat for hire in Florida is a FWC Florida specific course. The DOI course will not be accepted by FWC if you are operating an Airboat for hire in Florida. As of right now USA Marine Training LLC is the only company that is approved in Florida to teach the course. For more information please feel free to call or email. When you call or email please let me know you got my information from SA.

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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Capt steve » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:21 pm

Thanks!!! Will be reaching out to you.
Does it matter if one has a master license?
If we have a few captains can we set something up at our location?
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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Prototype » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:19 pm

Usamarinetraining wrote:Hi I'm Randy Hill and I'm the owner of USA Marine Training. The course that is needed to operate any Airboat for hire in Florida is a FWC Florida specific course. The DOI course will not be accepted by FWC if you are operating an Airboat for hire in Florida. As of right now USA Marine Training LLC is the only company that is approved in Florida to teach the course. For more information please feel free to call or email. When you call or email please let me know you got my information from SA.

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Why is the DOI course not acceptable! And who is FWC as far as airboat training qualified? Another fee and law to others they don't even observe!

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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Usamarinetraining » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:44 am

Capt Steve unfortunately you still have to take the Florida specific course even if you have a Capt. license. We can definitely come and teach the course at your location. We feel it's actually best to teach you in the area you ride and on the boat/boats you will normally be operating when that option is available.

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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Usamarinetraining » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:00 am

Prototype I can't speak for FWC but the best reason I can give you is, the DOI course is not acceptable because FWC said it isn't. The DOI course doesn't get into Florida specific stuff and FWC wanted to make the course have specific things that fit our State. The only other answer I can give you to answer your question of who FWC is as far as airboat training goes is they are the agency that makes the laws for airboats in our state. We can all battle back and forth about it being about money or anything else we can come up with but at the end of the day it's the law now and there is nothing that can be done other than follow the law or pay the consequences for not.

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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Capt steve » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:04 am

Randy. Thanks for all the information.
We will talk soon!!!!
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Post by Sniper » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:59 am

I have been in contact with my partner in FLA and we will be submitting our course to FWC so we will be up and running to be able to offer the required training course for all the Airboat Capt's that are interested and there will also be several others offering the course as well so you guys should several to choose from
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Post by Usamarinetraining » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:44 am

Sniper that will be a good thing because one company can't teach every Airboat Capt. for hire in Florida before the July deadline. Especially since it's a mandatory 24 hour course and the small student to teacher ratio they put in place.

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Post by Sniper » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:51 am

yep I dont know how many Airboat captains there are but I bet over a 100
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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Old Yeller » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:14 am

1,025+ Commercial Airboats registered in Florida according to a Miami newspaper

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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Usamarinetraining » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:51 am

Sniper I'm not sure at this point either but there is a lot. I would say Old Yeller is close with the numbers he posted. If that count includes tour boats on sovereign land than you have to remove those from the count but even with that there is a lot to get done in a short time.

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Post by Prototype » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:47 pm

Old Yeller wrote:1,025+ Commercial Airboats registered in Florida according to a Miami newspaper
One of four operation boats registered as Commercial because of the tax collector girl didn't know how to find the commercial button?

Laws enacted deserves support of such, and not just fines to those that cannot abide. FWC is a Joke of a agency since the big meld of marine patrol and DOT escort services! I totally reject FWC as capable or compitent to admin this! Not to mention they are also governed environmentally by SWFWMD.

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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Capt steve » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:00 pm

Well onethings for sure. I gotta get it done. I drive tourbiats for a living.

Any idea of costs yet. I love doing this for a living but it doesn’t give me much disposable income.
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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Prototype » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:51 pm

Capt steve wrote:Well onethings for sure. I gotta get it done. I drive tourbiats for a living.

Any idea of costs yet. I love doing this for a living but it doesn’t give me much disposable income.
Did you realize what you just said? I'm a pussy and will conform to any regs the state feels competent to impose on me?

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Post by Capt steve » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:09 am

Well I’m a pussy that has to earn a living and I doubt the owners I work for will want me driving without the right documents. And just maybe I’ll learn something that will keep my passengers safe.

And I can’t afford to not follow the law. I don’t have to agree with it, but I was raised to follow it.
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Post by Gary S » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:27 am

Cant steve, I don't blame you for wanting to do the right thing. You should talk to your owners and see if they are willing to foot the bill for the classes for you and any other captains they employee. You could sign a agreement that you you won't leave him for a agreed upon length of time. You get the certification and it gives you another qualification that others don't have and you will be desirable.
I also like your attitude about being safer for your customers.

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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Sniper » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:47 am

Capt Steve you have the right mind set about maybe you will learn something,not thinking that way is what got everybody in to this mess to begin with some people thinking just because they been driving an Airboat for a lot of years that they know what they are doing and can't be taught a better way , I have seen several Airboat pilots over the years with a lot of stick time and a lot of bad habits that are eventually going to get them or someone else hurt, none of us are perfect but an Airboat is far from a normal boat and when you mess up in an Airboat its usually real bad, there are a lot of people that have come to the state of Florida that really don't like Airboats and the people that drive them and look for any reason to get rid of us lets not give them any ammunition with unsafe driving habits
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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Old Yeller » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:24 am

For any of you caught up with a renewal during the shutdown this will get you to 31MAR19
http://mariners.coastguard.dodlive.mil/ ... Commons%29

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Re: New Florida commercial operator regs.

Post by Capt steve » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:18 pm

Thanks for the updates on the coast guard bulletins. They are very helpful

I still have to go forward with the safety coarse

I’ll be in touch
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