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fuel injecter location??????

kev*1451

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I have a 170 lycoming angle valve 0320 and the cylenders do not have the bosses for the injectors on top can I run the in the primer ports? If not whats the best way?? thanks guys just trying to figer out weather or not to run a carb or the injection. Do yall think there would be a big enough power change to make it worth my while?
 
This is just my opinion.

Fuel injection may add fuel economy and it may be somewhat more responsive but I'm not so sure fuel injection adds HP. From the information I have, IO-320's and O-320's can both develop 160 HP. The one's that develop less, do so due to lower compression not due to lack of fuel injection.

The same seems to be true for the IO-360 and O-360. The model TO-360-C1A6D which develops 210 HP does so with a turbocharger and a carburetor. I would think that if all Lycoming had to do was to add fuel injection to gain 10 HP they would have done so.

Ken
 
According to that then whats the differences in a 180HP O-360 and a 200HP IO-360? You saying it isn't the injection? What is it?

Willing to listen and learn.

Scotty
 
from what I have learned is the 180 0360 is the stright vavle cylenders. then you have the 200 0360 witch is the angle valve motor those cylenders make the extra power. Thats why when you put the angle valve 480 cylenders on a 0320 you bump the hp up to 170 and have herd if its built right you make the full 20 more hp witch puts you 0320 up to 180.
 
I guess why I was asking is that I have an IO-360 (anglevalve) 200 HP Engine. The boy I bought it from had taken the injection off of it and put a Carb on it. It also has a 180 prop, I admit it swings the 180 prop a bit too hard bit it doesn't have the 200 prop. I would expect it to swing the 180 prop only at its rated 2700 RPM if it was now just a 180, but it nails it at 3000+ instantly, like there was no real load on it. Just trying to make sense of all this.

Scotty
 
Whitebear said:
I guess why I was asking is that I have an IO-360 (anglevalve) 200 HP Engine. The boy I bought it from had taken the injection off of it and put a Carb on it. It also has a 180 prop, I admit it swings the 180 prop a bit too hard bit it doesn't have the 200 prop. I would expect it to swing the 180 prop only at its rated 2700 RPM if it was now just a 180, but it nails it at 3000+ instantly, like there was no real load on it. Just trying to make sense of all this.

Scotty

Scotty, you might be turnin it more, because you probably pegging that tac which is a 3000rpm tac. You know the helicopter 0360 is rated at 210hp on carb.

Geoff
 
Thanks Geoff. I seem to remember talking about this when I got it, but hell, I'm not sure what we had said. Makes sense now since I failed to mention those RPMs were static, on the trailer. One thing I am certain of is that it needs a bigger prop.

Thanks for reminding me Geoff

Scotty
 
Scotty, you might be turnin it more, because you probably pegging that tac which is a 3000rpm tac. You know the helicopter 0360 is rated at 210hp on carb.

What model engine is that? My information maybe somewhat dated but don't think so. The highest rated HIO engines I can find are the HIO-360-C1B, LHIO-360-C1A & LHIO-360-C1B. They all develop 205 at 2900 RPM and are all injected. They also have 8.7:1 compression as opposed to 8.5:1 on some of the other injected engines that develop 200 HP.

The TO-360-C1A6D, TO-360-F1A6D, & TIO-360-C1A6D all develop 210 at 2575 RPM. Two have Carburetors and the other is fuel injected.

The common denominator for increased HP seems (to me anyway) to be compression and in some cases tuned intake. I also realize that there are other factors, cam duration, etc. The reason for increased HP just doesn't seem to be fuel injection.

Fuel injection from what I understand delivers a air/fuel ratio of somewhere between 14.1 / 15.1 just like a carburetor.

I'm not try to start an argument and would be more that willing to listen to other view points.

Ken
 
The problem I have with this engine is that there is no ID on it. We cane to the concolusion what it is just from looking at the cases, the jugs and etc. There is even no number on the block in the "traditional" location. So top be factual, I have no clue what exact model it is. I suppose its possible its a parts built engine with no pedigree at all. I guess if I ever have to tear it down I will get better info. It sure is strong though and thats all the factuals I have on it. I have the (or most of) injection the boy took off and someday think I would like to clean it all up and put it back on the engine. For now though it hangs in the garage.

I am not physically able anymore to climb in under the engine and otherwise make a pretzel out of myself to see hidden things. Old body is getting stiffer and more aggravating by the day. Gettin old ain't for the meek or the week.

I may dig around on it some in the coming week and revisit some of this. Its about time for another runup just to get it up to temp and circulate the oil. She has become a real trailer-queen sadly. Maybe in my next life I will not try to do so many different things and focus just on airboating.

Sorry to bore ya with the personal junk.
Scotty
 
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